[Mpi-forum] September MPI Forum / Agenda and Reminder to Register

Thu Sep 4 09:16:42 CDT 2014

To state this a little more clearly, we should be able to vote on the
version of #380 that was read at the last meeting.  We have ticket 0
changes to add to this version of the proposal.  Procedurally speaking, we
could make this work by reading the ticket 0 changes this time as an FYI
and reading them again formally at the next meeting in concert with a
second vote.  This will be confusing, so I move to just forgive my
tardiness.  :)

 ~Jim.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> The version of the endpoints proposal that was read at the last meeting is
> proceeding for a vote, with the addition of ticket 0 changes that the
> working group made in response to feedback at the last reading.
>
> My apologies for being a day late on the deadline.  The timing was a
> little tricky this time around with the deadline landing on a Monday and a
> US holiday.
>
>  ~Jim.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <
> jsquyres at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Jim --
>>
>> I'm sorry, but your mail missed the deadline (I also see you just added a
>> new PDF to the ticket about 15 minutes ago).
>>
>> I think you have the following options:
>>
>> - proceed with the last version of the ticket that was announced to the
>> Forum (as of last meeting?)
>> - submit mpi-report.8.pdf for the December meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Jim Dinan <james.dinan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Martin,
>> >
>> > Apologies for missing the 9/1 deadline.  Endpoints #380 should be up
>> for a first vote in Japan.  The working group has made several changes to
>> the ticket based on feedback from the prior reading.  We feel that these
>> changes are ticket 0, and would like to read them prior to a vote.  If the
>> forum feels the changes are not ticket 0, we would like to re-read at the
>> Japan meeting.
>> >
>> > We do have an unmet implementation requirement, which we will satisfy
>> prior to the second vote.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >  ~Jim.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Balaji, Pavan <balaji at anl.gov> wrote:
>> > Hi Martin,
>> >
>> > This is not a vote, just a formal reading.  We were asked to make some
>> changes and read it again at the last meeting.
>> >
>> >   — Pavan
>> >
>> > On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Schulz Martin <schulzm at llnl.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Pavan,
>> > >
>> > > I think we can still add this, despite the two week deadline, since
>> we did
>> > > talk about this in the last meeting. What I don’t remember, though,
>> is the
>> > > state of the ticket: it’s listed as scheduled for vote and also
>> listed as
>> > > a reading in the June notes, but the ticket has two options on it and
>> it’s
>> > > not clear which one is the intended one. What do you want to do with
>> it?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > > Martin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> > > Martin Schulz, schulzm at llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/
>> > > CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 9/2/14, 6:12 AM, "Balaji, Pavan" <balaji at anl.gov> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Martin,
>> > >>
>> > >> You missed 411:
>> > >> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/411
>> > >>
>> > >> We had decided to postpone it to this meeting last time.
>> > >>
>> > >> Can you add it too?
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >>
>> > >> — Pavan
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Schulz Martin <schulzm at llnl.gov> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Rolf, all,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I have updated the agenda with all tickets to be read and voted on
>> - I
>> > >>> only got Rolf’s request below, please let me know asap in case I
>> missed
>> > >>> something (plus I moved the first votes from last time up to the
>> second
>> > >>> vote stage). With that, the agenda should be complete.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Rolf: all the tickets are on the agenda. There are a few, though,
>> as you
>> > >>> also noted, that are ticket 0 changes - I grouped them separately
>> with
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> intent that we don’t vote on them (but if we decide otherwise, they
>> > >>> count
>> > >>> as announced). I know we are a bit sparse in the chapter committees
>> > >>> right
>> > >>> now, but we need to fix this anyway to make MPI 3.1 happen. I am
>> > >>> planning
>> > >>> on pinging people separately about this in the next days - if they
>> are
>> > >>> any
>> > >>> volunteers right away, please let me know.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Martin
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> > >>> Martin Schulz, schulzm at llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/
>> > >>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 8/28/14, 8:30 AM, "Rolf Rabenseifner" <rabenseifner at hlrs.de>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Dear Martin,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> please add the following errata tickets to the agenda :
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> #456 MPI 3.0 Errata: MPI RMA synchronization for MPI shared memory
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This is a large ticket that needs discussion
>> > >>>> first in the RMA-WG, second in the plenary, and
>> > >>>> hopefully some voting (corrctions and final)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> Small Fortran corrections are:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> #433 MPI 3.0 Errata: MPI_WIN_ATTACH must only be for simply
>> contiguous
>> > >>>> buffers
>> > >>>> #440 Fortran cross-reference correction (ticket 0 / errata)
>> > >>>> #441 Missing text for Fortran MPI_SUBARRAYS_SUPPORTED equals
>> .FALSE.
>> > >>>> (errata)
>> > >>>> #442 Fortran "vector subscipts" and MPI_BOTTOM (ticket 0 / errata)
>> > >>>> #443 Fortran MPI_BOTTOM not for initialization or assignment
>> (ticket 0
>> > >>>> /
>> > >>>> errata)
>> > >>>> #444 Fortran and Persistent Requests (ticket 0 / errata)
>> > >>>> #445 Fortran and Permament Data Movement: "All" nonblocking
>> (ticket 0 /
>> > >>>> errata)
>> > >>>> #446 Fortran cross-reference update (ticket-0/errata)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> Fortran and absolute address text corrections:
>> > >>>> #431 MPI 3.0 Errata: MPI Address Errata
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> Errata and ticket-0 additions to tickets #349, #402, #404
>> > >>>>     (current status of the triple 1st vote):
>> > >>>> #421 MPI_Aint addressing arithmetic (ticket-0 additions)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> Small errata corrections to Chap.2:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> #447 Chap.2 errata: Tools section is an exception: no Fortran
>> interface
>> > >>>> #448 Chap.2 errata: Semantic term "matching" is missing
>> > >>>> #449 Chap.2 errata: Missing "in C" in wording about
>> handle-comparison
>> > >>>> #450 Chap.2 errata: Outdated cross-reference to MPI-1
>> > >>>> #451 Chap.2 errata: Correcting description of nonblocking
>> > >>>> #452 Chap.2 errata: Wording correction about deprecated and removed
>> > >>>> functions
>> > >>>> #453 Chap.2 errata: Avoidance of mpi_ / pmpi_ in C due to Fortran
>> > >>>> reasons
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> #455 Chap.2 errata: Removal of duplicated text on MPI_Aint and
>> > >>>> MPI_Offset
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> _____________________________________
>> > >>>> The rest of this mail are only hints.
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> I also expect that Jeff may want to update, discuss and vote:
>> > >>>> #428 Add more non-profile-able MPI routines
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> I also expect that Kathryn may want to update, discuss and vote:
>> > >>>> #383 Consistency of tools information interface variable
>> information
>> > >>>> #368 MPI_T Minor Errata
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> I also expect that Bill may want to update, discuss and vote:
>> > >>>> #438 Interpretation of MPI_WIN_BASE for shared memory windows
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> Other MPI-3.0 errata tickets that may or should be handled before
>> > >>>> MPI-3.1
>> > >>>> is finalized:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> #420 Bug in neighbourhood collective example
>> > >>>>   - due to missing chapter committee action,
>> > >>>>     it shoud be voted in
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> The only MPI-3.0-errata ticket that may need to go MPI-4.0 is:
>> > >>>> #374 Comm_free/Type_free/Win_free: clarify attribute destructor
>> > >>>> semantics
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ____
>> > >>>> Tickets #428, #368, #368, #420 may need a milestone-change to
>> "Kobe".
>> > >>>> Otherwise, they are invisible in the Kobe tickets list:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/query?status=accepted&statu
>> > >>>> s=
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> assigned&status=new&status=reopened&milestone=2014%2F09%2F15+Kobe%2C+Jap
>> > >>>> an
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> &col=id&col=summary&col=milestone&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=v
>> > >>>> er
>> > >>>> sion&order=priority
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Best regards
>> > >>>> Rolf
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>>> From: "Schulz Martin" <schulzm at llnl.gov>
>> > >>>>> To: "Main mailing list" <mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org>
>> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:53:01 AM
>> > >>>>> Subject: [Mpi-forum] September MPI Forum / Agenda and Reminder to
>> > >>>>> Register
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Hi all,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Based on the (sparse) feedback that I have gotten, I have
>> assembled
>> > >>>>> an
>> > >>>>> initial agenda and uploaded it to the server. Please check the
>> > >>>>> agenda,
>> > >>>>> especially if you sent me a request, and double check that I
>> didn¹t
>> > >>>>> miss
>> > >>>>> anything or anybody. If something is missing, please let me know
>> > >>>>> asap.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> As usual, I tried to split working groups and plenary on separate
>> > >>>>> days,
>> > >>>>> with votes on day three. However, so far I have only received one
>> WG
>> > >>>>> meeting request, which would make Monday relatively sparse. We
>> could
>> > >>>>> move
>> > >>>>> parts of Tuesday to that day and probably finish on Tuesday
>> evening.
>> > >>>>> Some
>> > >>>>> people have voiced interest in doing this. However, this would
>> move
>> > >>>>> votes
>> > >>>>> onto the same day as the second half of the plenary and I would
>> like
>> > >>>>> some
>> > >>>>> feedback on this (since the voting times are typically fixed to
>> the
>> > >>>>> last
>> > >>>>> day). So the options are:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Monday WG time (with open, general WG time), Tuesday plenary,
>> > >>>>> Wednesday
>> > >>>>> votes
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> -or-
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Monday WG and plenary time (errata), Tuesday plenary and votes,
>> > >>>>> Wednesday
>> > >>>>> off
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Please let me know if you have a preference one way or the other.
>> If
>> > >>>>> I
>> > >>>>> don¹t hear anything or if there are objections to moving the
>> voting
>> > >>>>> block,
>> > >>>>> we¹ll leave things as is (first option).
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Thanks!
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Martin
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> PS: Please don¹t forget to register, if you haven¹t done so, by
>> the
>> > >>>>> end of
>> > >>>>> August (just a few days left). We need an exact attendee list, so
>> > >>>>> people
>> > >>>>> can get access to Riken.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>> > >>>>> _
>> > >>>>> Martin Schulz, schulzm at llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/
>> > >>>>> CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
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>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Dr. Rolf Rabenseifner . . . . . . . . . .. email
>> rabenseifner at hlrs.de
>> > >>>> High Performance Computing Center (HLRS) . phone
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>> > >>>> University of Stuttgart . . . . . . . . .. fax ++49(0)711 /
>> 685-65832
>> > >>>> Head of Dpmt Parallel Computing . . .
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>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Pavan Balaji  ✉️
>> > >> http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~balaji
>> > >>
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