[Mpi-forum] Updated agenda

Tue Feb 28 21:38:08 CST 2012

I am as much in favor of keeping the cost down as anybody, but this ground gets covered at every single meeting.  From memory, the major points are:

-Some meetings are cheap, others are expensive.  International ones are sometimes (not always) ridiculously expensive.  

-The forum has, in the past, lost money by committing to a room block that didn't get fulfilled.  Usually, committing a room block is necessary to get free space.  Thankfully, we have industry sponsors for the space in the US right now.  

-You may, or may not, think that the support services who organized it did an insufficient job of negotiating.  I am pretty sure that Rich has offered to let somebody else do the organizing, but NOBODY is quite THAT upset at the pricing.  

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:mpi-forum-
> bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hammond
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Updated agenda
> 
> Can you publish the space rental and catering costs for each location in an
> itemized fashion?  There are >25 attendees to the forum.  I am curious how
> you're exceeding $5000 for three days for any location.
> 
> I'm organizing a conference (SAAHPC) at Argonne where we are paying
> literally nothing for the space for three days.  My wife organizes events at
> the University of Chicago all the time and none of them cost more than
> $1000/day unless there are hundreds of people attending.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Graham, Richard L. <rlgraham at ornl.gov>
> wrote:
> > The meeting cost was $200 - somewhat of a surplus was built up, so we
> dropped it to $125 for a while. I suppose we can just keep it at the fixed price
> of $200. There are meetings (usually away from the US) that we do not even
> come close to covering with registration, and we simply can't run a deficit.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fab Tillier
> > [ftillier at microsoft.com<mailto:ftillier at microsoft.com>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 09:18 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > To: Main MPI Forum mailing list; Bronis R. de Supinski
> > Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Updated agenda
> >
> >
> > How come registration is $200 rather than the usual $125?  I remember the
> last meeting in Chicago was $200 because we had to book the Wild Fire
> restaurant for Wednesday, but we're doing the whole week at the Microsoft
> facilities, and all the previous such meetings were $125.  The meeting
> registration costs seem kind of arbitrary, and it would be nice if they weren't.
> >
> > -Fab
> >
> > Graham, Richard L. wrote on Tue, 28 Feb 2012 at 17:49:13
> >
> >> Dinner is not provided as part of registration - at this stage it is
> >> too late to add that.  The plan was to order pizzas, and have folks
> >> chip in, if people still want to go with pizza.
> >>
> >> Rich
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Bronis R. de Supinski wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Darius:
> >>>
> >>> My understanding is the dinner will be included in the registration
> >>> fee so you should not need to be reimbursed.
> >>>
> >>> Bronis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Darius Buntinas wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It's easier for ANL people to get reimbursed for dinner if it's
> >>>> listed on the agenda.
> >>>>
> >>>> -d
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Jeffrey Squyres wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Rich --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It doesn't mention it specifically on the agenda, but we agreed to
> >>>>> have
> >> (pizza?) Forum/working dinner on Monday night, right?  Same thing on
> >> Tuesday?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Graham, Richard L. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The agenda for next weeks meeting has been updated.  I believe I
> >> captured all the recent requests, but please check to make sure I
> >> have not missed your request.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Rich
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