[Mpi-forum] Questions on MPI Standard formatting
Joseph Schuchart
schuchart at icl.utk.edu
Sun Sep 5 09:58:19 CDT 2021
I definitely prefer the second (less bold) version over the first (bold)
version. Would you mind sharing the branch containing the changes? I'd
like to play around with the fonts myself to see what is and isn't possible.
Thanks
Joseph
On 9/3/21 5:46 PM, Gropp, William D wrote:
> One option is to use a different font; the one I used in the first
> examples has a strong bold. Here’s the same page with a different
> font with a less bold look. In some ways, this may go too far in the
> other direction - the bold text is a little heavier, but the
> difference is slight.
>
> One advantage of this choice is that the code text is not quite as
> wide as with the font choice for the previous example, which works
> better with the current code examples.
>
> Let me know your preference. It is easy to change, modulo the issue
> of needing to wrap a few lines of code.
>
> Bill
>
>
> William Gropp
> Director, NCSA
> Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science
> University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
> IEEE-CS President-Elect
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
>> <mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org
>> <mailto:mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I am OK with leaving out line numbers in tables. Maybe that will be
>> solved in the future.
>>
>> One comment I had was on the code formatting. While I definitely
>> prefer the lstlistings formatting over the verbatim we have so far, I
>> find the bold highlighting somewhat distracting. I find it hard to
>> focus on the surrounding code pieces. Would it be possible to tone
>> down the highlighting somewhat (slightly thinner, maybe grey)?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Joseph
>>
>> On 9/3/21 2:36 PM, William Gropp via mpi-forum wrote:
>>> Thanks, George. On the line numbering, unfortunately, this is very
>>> difficult to fix (and is a known problem). My proposal instead is to
>>> not use the line numbers in these cases; in the rare cases where we
>>> need to identify the location, we can count rows in the table or
>>> otherwise identify the line. There are some alternatives, but they
>>> are awkward and IMHO ugly, and don’t add much.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> William Gropp
>>> Director, NCSA
>>> Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science
>>> University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
>>> IEEE-CS President-Elect
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:19 PM, George Bosilca <bosilca at icl.utk.edu
>>>> <mailto:bosilca at icl.utk.edu> <mailto:bosilca at icl.utk.edu
>>>> <mailto:bosilca at icl.utk.edu>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> These PDFs looks great, a clear leap forward in improving the
>>>> readability and cleanness of the MPI standard.
>>>>
>>>> The only issue I noticed (and that was pinpointed in your email)
>>>> was about the multi-page tabular where the numbering is done
>>>> consecutively for the entire tabular environment despite the fact
>>>> that the table is split across multiple pages, and the numbers are
>>>> placed on the same side as the first page on all pages. If we can
>>>> fix this to have the line numbers per page and on the correct side
>>>> for all environments, that would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> George.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 11:03 Gropp, William D via mpi-forum
>>>> <mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org
>>>> <mailto:mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org>
>>>> <mailto:mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org
>>>> <mailto:mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I’ve been experimenting with updating the MPI Forum document
>>>> formatting, and in particular, modernizing the use of LaTeX and
>>>> reducing the custom LaTeX in the document. Attached are a few
>>>> pages from my tests. These show:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Use of the lineno package to label each line of text - this
>>>> replaces the ruler currently used, and means that text is more
>>>> accurately labeled, but “boxes”, including tables, figures, and
>>>> captions may not have line numbers. All of the attached pages
>>>> show the line numbers in the margins.
>>>> 2) Use of the lstlisting package, with syntax and MPI routine
>>>> highlighting. This also sets a background to gray to help the
>>>> code examples standout. The approach used in MPI 4.0 creates a
>>>> box with a border; because of the box, in that approach, the
>>>> individual lines of code are not numbered. Hence this change in
>>>> how code examples are marked off. The attached examples show both
>>>> one page and a code example that spans two pages.
>>>> 3) There is a way to include numbering for tabular environments
>>>> (and some others). However, this can lead to some odd labeling,
>>>> because of how the labeling is implemented within the various
>>>> LaTeX packages. I’ve included some examples which show both the
>>>> expected behavior (consecutive numbering) and the unexpected (and
>>>> nearly impossible to fix) non-consecutive numbering.
>>>> 4) I’ve also switched from the book to the srcbook document
>>>> class. This is a more modern and powerful document class, and has
>>>> allowed me to remove some of the custom LaTeX code.
>>>>
>>>> I’d like feedback on these. I’d like to adopt some of these for
>>>> the next version. In particular:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Use srcbook instead of book
>>>> 2) Use lstlisting in code examples as shown here
>>>> 3) For tabular environments, do NOT use line numbers for tabular
>>>> environments used within a table (or other floating) environment.
>>>> This is where the weird line numbering can happen (e.g., see the
>>>> attached page 32). For inline tabular environments, use edtable
>>>> to get line numbers (this is what was used in these examples, and
>>>> it has worked well in other parts of the document)
>>>>
>>>> If you have suggestions for improvements or alternatives, please
>>>> let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William Gropp
>>>> Director, NCSA
>>>> Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science
>>>> University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
>>>> IEEE-CS President-Elect
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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