[Mpi-forum] MPI-next

Jesper Larsson Träff traff at par.tuwien.ac.at
Sun Feb 23 07:16:56 CST 2014


I second this! I have the book on my desk and use it a lot and also bring
it often on travel. It's vastly superior to anything else. Would be a major
negative not to have it

Jesper, not sent from any phone

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 08:13:24AM -0600, Jeff Hammond wrote:
> I love the printed copy and carry it with me often. When I'm on an airplane,
> it's something they can't ask me to turn off. It's also not something that
> would be appealing to thieves.
> 
> I guess I'm a Luddite for preferring real books.  Maybe I'll be considered a
> book bigot by our future sentient robot overlords for saying this :-)
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:54 AM, "Gropp, William D" <wgropp at illinois.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
>     And I'll add another alternate.  For the few users who want a reference
>     copy, the PDF is now superior, now that tablets and ebook readers are now
>     usable.  I keep mine on my iPad, accessed through iAnnotate. 
>     Bill
> 
>     Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> 
> 
>     "N.M. Maclaren" <nmm1 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>     On Feb 22 2014, Rolf Rabenseifner wrote:
>     >
>     >as input for your discussions I'll give you some background about the
>     >MPI-2.1/2.2/3.0 book selling which includes some lessens learned,
>     >which may influence your decisions on MPI-3.1 and 4.0,
>     >see conclusions at the end.
> 
>     An alternate view:
> 
>     >- About 30% of MPI programmers who physically get in touch with the book,
>     >  buy the book (it is the cheapest useful screen extension they can buy ;
>     -)
>     >
>     >  ==> I expect a similar rate in the MPI Forum
> 
>     Yes, indeed, but NOT among the MPI-using community as a whole.
> 
>     Few people have much difficulty actually using the MPI facilities, once
>     over the initial learning curve, and rarely look at ANY reference on it.
>     Their ongoing problems are almost all due to the management of the data
>     and its distribution (surprise, surprise!)
> 
>     A high proportion of them program from multiple locations, usually work
>     and home, but often have multiple offices, and some do design and/or
>     coding at external meetings.
> 
>     I doubt that even 30% of the MPI-using community look at the actual
>     standard more than a couple of times a year and, for those people, it
>     isn't just the price but the shelf space and weight of a 1,000 page
>     book (which is what MPI 4.0 will be).
> 
>     In Cambridge, I doubt that more than 5% of the MPI-using community
>     would buy the book even the offer and book were delivered to their desk.
>     But we have always been one of the most distributed and network-centric
>     universities in the world.  It might be higher elsewhere.
> 
> 
>     Regards,
>     Nick Maclaren.
> 
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