[Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013

Thu Sep 27 05:49:06 CDT 2012

> even years: 3US+euroMPI
> odd years: 2US,1Asia+EuroMPI.

Yes, this was the last position at the Forum and also discussed 
at the EuroMPI business meeting.

The MPI Forum was re-started by the activities at several EuroMPI 
conferences, the last one at Paris 2007.

Therefore, there is a strong relationship and resposibility
and to have the MPI Forum meeting in US and the EuroMPI in Europe
both in fall, would not reflect this responsibility.

As far as I see, the colleagues in Madrid would like to host the 
MPI Forum meeting together with the EuroMPI and therefore, 
I expect - based on the previous meeting rules - we will have

  MPI-next Forum meeting Sep. 11-13, 2013, 
  (instead of Sep. 9-11 in San Jose), and 
  EuroMPI, Sep. 15-18, 2013, both in Madrid, Spain

This may change in later years if the EuroMPI may go to Asia,
but this is another discussion within the EuroMPI organizers.

Best regards
Rolf 

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aurélien Bouteiller" <bouteill at eecs.utk.edu>
> To: "Main MPI Forum mailing list" <mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:41:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013
> The 3-1 with 1 alternate between asia and europe collected the most
> vote. However there was significant disappointment about not
> collocating a meeting with EuroMPI, and after the straw vote closed,
> another interesting possibility was envisioned:
> 
> even years: 3US+euroMPI
> odd years: 2US,1Asia+EuroMPI.
> 
> This last proposal has not been straw voted, so it is not possible to
> know if it has support, but it seemed from the reception it had that
> the idea is not unbearable for most US institutions.
> 
> Aurelien
> 
> Le 26 sept. 2012 à 15:17, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres at cisco.com> a écrit :
> 
> > I don't remember there being a majority for the 2-2 option here in
> > Vienna -- am I remembering last week incorrectly?
> >
> > I definitely can't do 2 international meetings next week.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Richard Graham wrote:
> >
> >> This was discussed and there was another vote at the meeting in
> >> Vienna. This note is just a follow up to the discussions at that
> >> meeting.
> >>
> >> Rich
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org
> >> [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Schulz,
> >> Martin
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:36 PM
> >> To: Bronis R. de Supinski; Main MPI Forum mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013
> >>
> >> Hi Rich,
> >>
> >> I have the same recollection as Bronis and Mohamad. I thought there
> >> was a strong majority (at least at the Chicago meeting) for a 3-1
> >> solution with alternating non-US locations (one year Asia, one year
> >> Europe, but not both in one year - as it also shows on the current
> >> tentative meeting calendar for next year). I know this is not fair
> >> to everyone, but the group (again, at least in Chicago, which was
> >> pretty complete, though, since we were wrapping up 3.0) felt that
> >> this would maximize active participation.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Bronis R. de Supinski wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Rich:
> >>>
> >>> I would have to disagree. At best, you are splitting hairs to say
> >>> this
> >>> option was not voted on. In the "alternate"
> >>> years, it is simply the 2-2 option that was voted on and did not
> >>> come
> >>> anywhere near the 3-1 option in terms of votes.
> >>>
> >>> The arguments against 2-2 (even in alternating years) still apply.
> >>> It
> >>> significantly lowers attendance by active participants.
> >>>
> >>> Bronis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Richard Graham wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Such decisions are not made lightly - I assure you this. This was
> >>>> discussed at the last meeting, and this was an option that was
> >>>> not voted on. However, this was discussed again at the end of the
> >>>> meeting, and some at EuroMPI.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rich
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org
> >>>> [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Mohamad
> >>>> Chaarawi
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:30 PM
> >>>> To: mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Rich,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/26/2012 10:30 AM, Richard Graham wrote:
> >>>>> Therefore, I propose to keep the European meeting of the Forum
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> conjunction with EuroMPI, and every other year also have a
> >>>>> meeting
> >>>>> in Japan. With this in mind, here is the proposed schedule for
> >>>>> 2012
> >>>>
> >>>> The majority at the last meeting in Chicago were against having 2
> >>>> meetings internationally. We had several votes on different
> >>>> formations (4-0, 3-1, and 2-2), and 3-1 was the majority vote.
> >>>>
> >>>> It would have been fair to have a similar vote in Europe and see
> >>>> how the participants vote..
> >>>> Did the attendance at the Vienna meeting vote on a different
> >>>> schedule, or is your change coming from just some concerns (which
> >>>> are also valid) from some people?
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we have a formal organizational Vote by eligible
> >>>> organizations on this instead of just scheduling meetings based
> >>>> on suggestions that vary from meeting to meeting?
> >>>> This vote can be done over the phone.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Mohamad
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