[Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013

Wed Sep 26 19:41:08 CDT 2012

The 3-1 with 1 alternate between asia and europe collected the most vote. However there was significant disappointment about not collocating a meeting with EuroMPI, and after the straw vote closed, another interesting possibility was envisioned: 

even years: 3US+euroMPI
odd years: 2US,1Asia+EuroMPI. 

This last proposal has not been straw voted, so it is not possible to know if it has support, but it seemed from the reception it had that the idea is not unbearable for most US institutions. 

Aurelien 

Le 26 sept. 2012 à 15:17, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres at cisco.com> a écrit :

> I don't remember there being a majority for the 2-2 option here in Vienna -- am I remembering last week incorrectly?
> 
> I definitely can't do 2 international meetings next week.
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> On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Richard Graham wrote:
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>> This was discussed and there was another vote at the meeting in Vienna.  This note is just a follow up to the discussions at that meeting.
>> 
>> Rich
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Schulz, Martin
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:36 PM
>> To: Bronis R. de Supinski; Main MPI Forum mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013
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>> Hi Rich,
>> 
>> I have the same recollection as Bronis and Mohamad. I thought there was a strong majority (at least at the Chicago meeting) for a 3-1 solution with alternating non-US locations (one year Asia, one year Europe, but not both in one year - as it also shows on the current tentative meeting calendar for next year). I know this is not fair to everyone, but the group (again, at least in Chicago, which was pretty complete, though, since we were wrapping up 3.0) felt that this would maximize active participation.
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>> Martin
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>> On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Bronis R. de Supinski wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Rich:
>>> 
>>> I would have to disagree. At best, you are splitting hairs to say this 
>>> option was not voted on. In the "alternate"
>>> years, it is simply the 2-2 option that was voted on and did not come 
>>> anywhere near the 3-1 option in terms of votes.
>>> 
>>> The arguments against 2-2 (even in alternating years) still apply. It 
>>> significantly lowers attendance by active participants.
>>> 
>>> Bronis
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>>> 
>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Richard Graham wrote:
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>>>> Such decisions are not made lightly - I assure you this.  This was discussed at the last meeting, and this was an option that was not voted on.  However, this was discussed again at the end of the meeting, and some at EuroMPI.
>>>> 
>>>> Rich
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org 
>>>> [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Mohamad 
>>>> Chaarawi
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>> To: mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2013
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rich,
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/26/2012 10:30 AM, Richard Graham wrote:
>>>>> Therefore, I propose to keep the European meeting of the Forum in 
>>>>> conjunction with EuroMPI, and every other year also have a meeting 
>>>>> in Japan.  With this in mind, here is the proposed schedule for 2012
>>>> 
>>>> The majority at the last meeting in Chicago were against having 2 meetings internationally. We had several votes on different formations (4-0, 3-1, and 2-2), and 3-1 was the majority vote.
>>>> 
>>>> It would have been fair to have a similar vote in Europe and see how the participants vote..
>>>> Did the attendance at the Vienna meeting vote on a different schedule, or is your change coming from just some concerns (which are also valid) from some people?
>>>> 
>>>> Can we have a formal organizational Vote by eligible organizations on this instead of just scheduling meetings based on suggestions that vary from meeting to meeting?
>>>> This vote can be done over the phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mohamad
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