[Mpi3-tools] Final MPI-3 Tools BOF Slides

[Jeff Squyres]

Points -

- Slide 3: "Main philosophy" seems (mostly) redundant with prior slide
- Slide 3: "Information provided as a set of variables" seems redundant with prior slide
- Too many words on slide 4

Slightly modified the title slide
I deleted slide 3 and modified/extended slide 2.
I changed the MPIR slide to add visuals, reduced number of words

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On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Martin Schulz wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks to all for the comments and the feedback. I tried to
> include all comments (more detailed responses summarized
> below). Attached are the final slides that I will send to Rich.
> 
> Martin
> <2010-11-mpi3-toolswg-status-sc.pptx>
> 
> Marc-Andre:
> 
>> I think the slides are too full. Maybe I am missing what the BoF session is for. Am I correct that it is meant to reach out beyond the Forum?
> 
> I tried to cut it down even more. I think we need a bit more than
> in your proposal, but I understand your direction.
> 
>> 
>> I think it is best to have the user relate the info to his own experience. That's why in my proposal I just wrote "it like PAPI just for 'Software Counters' and with read--write access". A single sentence and whoever is listening should have a clear view on what we want to accomplish. If we directly want comments on the internals, people have to read the draft first anyway.
> 
> I added the PAPI example back.
> 
>> 
>> Also. I would not cite the direct link to the drafts. People will not be able to memorize the whole url, so I think the critical info is: svn.mpi-forum.org and "Tools WG". Then, I would place a link to each draft prominently on the beginning of the page (maybe below "List of ?")
> 
> Good point - I changed the slides and I will change the Wiki
> accordingly.
> 
> 
> Bronis:
> 
>> The animated MPIT slide is good. I tweaked the animation
>> slightly in the attached so that each examples text box
>> appears just after the relevant animation.
> 
> That actually changed the meaning - the example had the
> setup phase to the left and then an example for a performance
> variable on the right. Control variables were not in. I changed
> the text to avoid this misunderstanding when Rich is presenting.
> 
>> 
>> Also, I thought we agreed that we would not use hidden slides
>> as it is confusing. In any event, I think you need some words
> 
> Those were really intended only for the Web version only.
> 
>> on MPIT even with the animation. Further, the hidden MPIR
>> texxt slide was almost identical to the unhidden one. I unhid
>> all of the slides in the attached and merged the two MPIR
>> text slides. A good tweak would be to animate the MPIR process
>> figure but that would be above and beyond.
> 
> If we don't want any hidden slides - the last one seems too much.
> I got rid of it - people can look at the document.
> 
>> 
>> Overall the current version does put us a couple slides over
>> the request. However, it goes over due to the graphic slides,
>> whichwill help to make the talk more interesting so I would
>> hope that Rich would be OK with that.
> 
> We are now 1 slide over, so I hope this is OK.
> 
> 
> Kathryn:
> 
>> I really like the examples and animation you added to slide 2! Now that you have that, I think you can remove some of the text from slide 3 to make it less dense without losing information, e.g. the examples of variables. I edited slide 3 so that it's somewhat less dense but still something that I think Rich can read from and get the information we want across (attached slide 3).
> 
> Slide 3 was not supposed to be shown and only intended for the
> web version. Since both you and Bronis seemed to not like this,
> I added your modified slide as an unhidden one (in which case
> I like the reduced text).
> 
>> 
>> Also, there was a typo in slide 3 that I think you will want to fix in any case: "if the MPI implementation support this" change support to supports.
> 
> That's in there now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
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