[mpiwg-languages] MPI Languages WG

[Holmes, Daniel John]

Hi all,

I made some comments on the GitHub issue for side documents (#562) that capture some feedback from the virtual meeting today.
https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/562#issuecomment-1284287447

Best wishes,
Dan.

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Subject: Re: [mpiwg-languages] MPI Languages WG

HI Martin,

Should we search for a different/better time & day for these Languages WG meetings?
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Some of the discussion on side documents was captured by Wes in a summary comment on Issue 562:
https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/562#issuecomment-1263956090

Based on the discussion on 2022-09-30:

  *   We need to unify and better specify the terminology on these documents between the website, procedures document, and this proposal.
  *   It sounds like this is proposing having at least three categories of documents:
     *   Normative side-documents (e.g., new language documents, MQD?, MPIR?)
     *   Non-normative side-documents (e.g., exploratory features)
     *   Organizational side-documents (e.g. JOD, instructions for preparing the doc)
  *   This proposal will need to include changes to the procedures that define any new categories.
  *   We may also need to include (either with this proposal or very soon afterward) changes to the existing documents to make them compatible with the new definitions.
Additional notes:

*         The Languages WG wants to add normative side-documents containing optional bindings for additional languages (e.g. C++, Python, ...)

*         The HACC WG wants to add normative side-documents containing optional bindings for language extensions (e.g. CUDA, SYCL, ...)

*         The HACC WG wants to add (non-)normative side-documents containing experimental features (e.g. continuations, streams/queues, ...)

*         The JOD was excised from the MPI-4.x branch (after the MPI-4.0 release) by the document editor; adding it back in might be A Bad Thing (tm)

*         Changes to all existing (companion/associated/side-)documents to make them conform is (significant?) scope-creep.

Best wishes,
Dan.

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Subject: [mpiwg-languages] Canceled: MPI Languages WG
When: 13 October 2022 15:00-16:00 (UTC+01:00) Belgrade, Bratislava, Budapest, Ljubljana, Prague.
Where: https://tum-conf.zoom.us/j/62174408327

Hello all,

Apologies I need to cancel this meeting. I know there was interesting discussion about the presentation topic that Daniel Holmes presented.

If you want me to keep the slot going let me know so that a discussion can be had.

Cheers,

Martin

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