[MPI3 Fortran] MPI_INIT issues

[Rolf Rabenseifner]

Dear Jeff,

yes, I'll be not at the meeting, and if Craig is also not coming,
any straw votes are guaranteed to be 100% :-)

We should discuss this directly on the ticket
https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/351

Please add the Fortran functionality on the ticket
as background info. And also the wording for the MPI routines.
And perhaps a rationale to explain the relation between
the Fortran and the MPI routines.

Then, I would expect, this ticket is simple and a self-explaining
good and ***necessary*** extension for MPI-next.

Exactly this rational is the basis that all C programming Forum
members will see the necessity.

Best regards
Rolf

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)" <jsquyres at cisco.com>
> To: "MPI-3 Fortran working group" <mpi3-fortran at lists.mpi-forum.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:32:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MPI3 Fortran] MPI_INIT issues
> This is a WG meeting, not a plenary.
> 
> Rolf -- are you not going to be there? Because if I'm going to be the
> only WG member at the meeting, it'll be a pretty darn quick meeting.
> :-)
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Rolf Rabenseifner <rabenseifner at hlrs.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > As fas as I see,
> > the MPI routines guarantee to work on all MPI processes,
> > whereas the Fortran routines are guaranteed only in a
> > sequential program.
> >
> > If you are doing slides, then please show the Fortran routine
> > functionality (e.g., the INOUT quality of a length argument)
> > and compare it to the proposed MPI routine.
> > They should be identical (i.e. least surprise).
> > This would help the audience to see that the interface is okay.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Rolf
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill Long" <longb at cray.com>
> >> To: mpi3-fortran at lists.mpi-forum.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:17:46 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MPI3 Fortran] MPI_INIT issues
> >> I found the proposed solution confusing. If the Fortran user wants
> >> to
> >> call COMMAND_ARGUMENT_COUNT or GET_COMMAND_ARGUMENT, why not just
> >> do
> >> that directly? I don't see a point to creating new functions
> >> starting
> >> with MPI_ .
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/20/13 11:02 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote:
> >>> I see that Martin put us on the agenda to discuss the MPI_INIT
> >>> Fortran issues (see
> >>> https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/351): 9-10am
> >>> US
> >>> Central on Tuesday morning.
> >>>
> >>> Do we have any slides to discuss, or a plan, or ...?
> >>>
> >>> Who will be there? (I will)
> >>>
> >>
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