[Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2012
wgropp at illinois.edu
Tue Sep 20 09:34:41 CDT 2011
I'll note that we did something like this for the 2009 meeting in
Helsinki, for exactly this reason. We should also remember that while
that worked well enough for a vote, it wasn't a substitute for being
present for the discussions.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
> This is a good starting point for the discussion.
> Other logistical issues will also need to be discussed, such as
> which video system to use (I firmly believe that audio-only
> participation will not be enough), how to get access to it, etc.
> Rich -- maybe you can talk about the issues surrounding virtual
> attendance at Santorini and/or in Chicago?
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote:
>> what if digital attendance was only permitted by parties who were
>> already voting-eligible? that way, organizations with limited travel
>> funds could attend >50% of meetings in-person but still vote in the
>> remainder. for example, if you have to earn eligibility the
>> old-fashioned way (physical attendance), it immediately eliminates
>> the flakes from the digital attendance pool.
>> anyways, video telecons are still a pain in the arse no matter who is
>> showing up that way.
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres at cisco.com>
>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote:
>>>> I wonder at what point the MPI Forum will support digital
>>>> I guess someone must have looked into this and decided that it
>>>> was too
>>>> much of pain in the arse.
>>> That has been the conclusion in the past -- plus, the Forum
>>> intentionally wanted to "raise the bar" for participation, trying
>>> to ensure that only those who really cared would actually be
>>> involved. This prevents (at least) two kinds of lazy participants:
>>> - those who only want their organization's name on the MPI roster
>>> - those who only attend occasional meetings (or worse, just a
>>> session or two here and there) and don't really have a good
>>> understanding of the Forum or the issues involved
>>> To be clear, Forum participation is open to anyone. But we really
>>> only want people who want to actually be *involved* -- not just
>>> someone who drops in for an occasional meeting and is (perhaps
>>> unintentionally) disruptive due to lack of knowledge/experience on
>>> how the Forum works, the body of complex issues that are being
>>> worked on, etc.
>>> Jeff Squyres
>>> jsquyres at cisco.com
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