[Mpi-forum] Meeting schedule for 2012

[William Gropp]

I'll note that we did something like this for the 2009 meeting in  
Helsinki, for exactly this reason.  We should also remember that while  
that worked well enough for a vote, it wasn't a substitute for being  
present for the discussions.

Bill

On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote:

> This is a good starting point for the discussion.
>
> Other logistical issues will also need to be discussed, such as  
> which video system to use (I firmly believe that audio-only  
> participation will not be enough), how to get access to it, etc.
>
> Rich -- maybe you can talk about the issues surrounding virtual  
> attendance at Santorini and/or in Chicago?
>
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote:
>
>> what if digital attendance was only permitted by parties who were
>> already voting-eligible?  that way, organizations with limited travel
>> funds could attend >50% of meetings in-person but still vote in the
>> remainder.  for example, if you have to earn eligibility the
>> old-fashioned way (physical attendance), it immediately eliminates  
>> all
>> the flakes from the digital attendance pool.
>>
>> anyways, video telecons are still a pain in the arse no matter who is
>> showing up that way.
>>
>> jeff
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Jeff Squyres <jsquyres at cisco.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Jeff Hammond wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder at what point the MPI Forum will support digital  
>>>> attendance.
>>>> I guess someone must have looked into this and decided that it  
>>>> was too
>>>> much of pain in the arse.
>>>
>>> That has been the conclusion in the past -- plus, the Forum  
>>> intentionally wanted to "raise the bar" for participation, trying  
>>> to ensure that only those who really cared would actually be  
>>> involved.  This prevents (at least) two kinds of lazy participants:
>>>
>>> - those who only want their organization's name on the MPI roster
>>> - those who only attend occasional meetings (or worse, just a  
>>> session or two here and there) and don't really have a good  
>>> understanding of the Forum or the issues involved
>>>
>>> To be clear, Forum participation is open to anyone.  But we really  
>>> only want people who want to actually be *involved* -- not just  
>>> someone who drops in for an occasional meeting and is (perhaps  
>>> unintentionally) disruptive due to lack of knowledge/experience on  
>>> how the Forum works, the body of complex issues that are being  
>>> worked on, etc.
>>>
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William Gropp
Director, Parallel Computing Institute
Deputy Director for Research
Institute for Advanced Computing Applications and Technologies
Paul and Cynthia Saylor Professor of Computer Science
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign