[Mpi-forum] Oct 24-26, 2011 meeting in Chicago

Fri Sep 9 02:50:52 CDT 2011

As Dave said, we have tried this in the past, and given the costs associated with using the new ANL facility, it was cheaper to hold the meeting at a local hotel close to Argonne, rather than at ANL.  We have identified a site close to the hotel in down town Chicago, and will most likely go ahead with this.

Thanks for the suggestion,
Rich

> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 10:30:16 -0400
> From: jhammond at alcf.anl.gov
> To: mpi-forum at lists.mpi-forum.org
> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Oct 24-26, 2011 meeting in Chicago
> 
> I am the chair of SAAHPC next year so I am aware of the logistical
> issues of hosting an event.  The administrative cost in FTE hours is
> likely less than what you, Darius and I will lose from the commute
> that day.
> 
> There is sufficient lead time in this case to process all of the
> foreign nationals who are not already in our system.  For example,
> anyone from the Forum who has visited Argonne recently and/or has a
> BGP account (e.g. Torsten) would already have a 593 on file and thus
> be equivalent to a US citizen in terms of administrative overhead.
> 
> Bill's argument about public transit is probably the death blow to my
> dream of driving 5 minutes to the Forum meeting.
> 
> I can discuss administrative overhead with ALCF and see if we can do
> this in the future if outside attendees are at all interested.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dave Goodell <goodell at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> > Jeff, we've tried multiple times to arrange the Forum here at Argonne, but it's much more complicated than you might think.  A combination of DOE meeting policies, ANL "public meeting in TCS" policies, and other cost issues actually makes it very difficult to hold the meeting at Argonne without supplying a significant amount of work on the ANL side to handle badging foreign nationals.
> >
> > Add to this the apparent preference of most non-Chicagoland attendees for a downtown meeting (see Bronis' email) and it becomes even more difficult to schedule a meeting here.
> >
> > I'd be happy to discuss it further with you offline, but I would recommend not advocating for an ANL meeting until you are certain that you have at least sorted out all of the ANL-side issues.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:59 AM CDT, Jeff Hammond wrote:
> >
> >> Very true.  I was working under the assumption that people would check
> >> out in the morning, go to Argonne (reverse commute is fast) and leave
> >> directly from Argonne to the hotel.  The total distance is greater but
> >> it is logistically simpler than walking, taxiing, etc. to some new
> >> location, is it not?
> >>
> >> The Argonne is zero cost for the space, which may be an advantage
> >> relative to other sites, such as at one of the hotels.
> >>
> >> I agree that my idea is far-fetched, but I live 3 miles from Argonne.
> >> I am pretty sure Dave and Darius will be much happier as well.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Bronis R. de Supinski <bronis at llnl.gov> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> However Argonne is much further from the hotel and not as easily
> >>> served by public transportation to O'Hare. It would involve much
> >>> more challenging logistics for most attendees.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Jeff Hammond wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> AON center to O'Hare is 19.3 miles, whereas it is only 7 more from
> >>>> Argonne, but with 90/94 traffic, Argonne is arguable closer to ORD in
> >>>> space-time on a Wednesday afternoon.  Traffic definitely favors going
> >>>> to MDW from the west in the afternoon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Graham, Richard L. <rlgraham at ornl.gov>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The hotel information for the Oct meeting in Chicago is now posted, and
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> be accessed from the meeting logistics page
> >>>>> (http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/Meeting_details.php).  Please note that
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> cutoff date for the group rate is Oct the 3rd.   The first two days of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> meeting will take place at the usual Microsoft location in down town, but
> >>>>> the location of the final day is still being worked out.  We expect this
> >>>>> will be down town, close to the meeting hotel.  The registration page is
> >>>>> still several days away from being ready.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rich
> >>>>>
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