[Mpi-22] Ordering guarantees and multiple threads
Greg Bronevetsky
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Fri Mar 27 12:25:29 CDT 2009
At 09:35 AM 3/27/2009, Darius Buntinas wrote:
>I've just created a ticket:
> https:// svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/144
>to suggest that we strengthen the ordering guarantees between sends (and
>receives) from different threads.
>
>I think that the real question here is whether the potential benefit to
>the user outweighs the potential for optimization in a multithreaded
>implementation.
>
>Please have a look at it and feel free to comment.
I like the spirit of this proposal but in practice it will be hard to
specify. In particular, consider the sentence "two sends do not
overlap if the first MPI_Send() returns before the second MPI_Send()
is called". The word "before" here is only properly defined on a
sequentially consistent memory. On any other memory model "before" is
only defined by synchronization primitives supplied by the shared
memory system. As such, I don't know how to be precise about
something like "before" without talking about the shared memory
system. This will be hard because we'll need to talk about concepts
that all these systems share but for which they all provide different
primitives and semantics. I don't know how the wider forum will react
to such a specification. However, I agree that something like this is
necessary.
Greg Bronevetsky
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