[mpiwg-tools] The infernal "things must be identical" text (was: Meeting reminder for April 3 11:00 AM EDT, 8:00 AM PDT)

Thu Aug 7 09:18:46 CDT 2014

Hi Kathryn, all,

I am not sure if I can make it today for the call, so here are a few
comments on the ticket draft. I’ll also add them to the ticket.

Thanks,

Martin

- Return the same INOUT and OUT integer and enum values from the relevant
MPI_T_*_GET_INFO function.
	Should include datatype values

- If sufficiently long string length INOUT parameters are supplied, return
the same
string valued OUT parameters from the relevant MPI_T_*_GET_INFO function.
	-> functions

- Return a handle to an equivalent MPI object from the relevant
MPI_T_*_GET_INFO
function.
	This can be removed, INFO calls don’t return handles - we return only the
type of MPI object, which is an integer and that is covered by the above

- Similarly, enumerations and categories in connected processes must also
obey the above
restrictions where applicable
	What about “for certain parameters” instead of “where applicable”

- Table:MPI_T_ENUM_GET_INFO should be removed from the table (we decided
to allow different numbers in different processes to support Jeff’s use
case)

- Table:MPI_T_ENUM_GET_ITEM is a bit strange here, since it is not an
GET_INFO call and so doesn’t quite match the text above (minor detail,
though)

- Table:MPI_T_ENUM_GET_INFO: we should either have value and name here or
neither, if we keep name, it should be contents of name to be consistent

- Table:MPI_T_CVAR_GET_INFO: needs to include contents of name

- Table:MPI_T_PVAR_GET_INFO: needs to include contents of name

- Table:MPI_T_CATEGORY_GET_INFO: needs to include contents of name

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Martin Schulz, schulzm at llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/
CASC @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, USA

On 8/4/14, 6:35 PM, "Kathryn Mohror" <kathryn at llnl.gov> wrote:

>Thanks Michael!
>
>I¹ve attached a first stab at putting the table back into the document.
>Please take a look if you can, and we¹ll discuss it more later this week
>during the call.
>
>Kathryn
>
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>Kathryn Mohror, kathryn at llnl.gov, http://scalability.llnl.gov/
>Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA,
>USA
>
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>On 7/25/14, 4:04 AM, "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)" <jsquyres at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Michael; that's helpful -- I see it there on page 3.
>>
>>Perhaps we can blend this table with the current text to get what we
>>want...?  E.g., text about the same semantics, categories with same
>>name/class, ...etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:53 AM, Michael Knobloch <m.knobloch at fz-juelich.de>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> no need to scan the page if you have some structure in your mails ;-).
>>> 
>>> Here's the original mail with the version I've shown yesterday.
>>> 
>>> -Michael
>>> 
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject:        Re: [mpiwg-tools] Meeting reminder for April 3 11:00 AM
>>>EDT,
>>> 8:00 AM PDT
>>> Date:   Fri, 4 Apr 2014 00:35:15 +0200
>>> From:   Kathryn Mohror <kathryn at llnl.gov>
>>> Reply-To:       mpiwg-tools at lists.mpi-forum.org
>>><mpiwg-tools at lists.mpi-forum.org>
>>> To:     mpiwg-tools at lists.mpi-forum.org
>>><mpiwg-tools at lists.mpi-forum.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody,
>>> 
>>> In case you're just *dying* to see what the changes for ticket 383 look
>>> like from our discussions today and from Adam's feedback, I have
>>> attached the new document.
>>> 
>>> Also, Adam's comments were basically that he didn't understand the
>>> meaning of the table, so I changed it up and he likes it now.
>>> 
>>> Kathryn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn at llnl.gov
>>> <mailto:kathryn at llnl.gov>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I put notes from today's meeting on the wiki:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools/notes-2014-
>>>>0
>>>>4-03
>>>> 
>>>> Kathryn
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Kathryn Mohror <kathryn at llnl.gov
>>>> <mailto:kathryn at llnl.gov>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a reminder of our regularly scheduled call tomorrow at 11:00
>>>>> AM Eastern and 8:00 AM Pacific. As always, the sign in information
>>>>> for the call is on the tools
>>>>> wiki: https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/MPI3Tools
>>>>> 
>>>>> I drafted some text for 383 (the 'variables with the same name must
>>>>> have same meaning' errata ticket). We can tear it apart on the call.
>>>>> The document is attached if you want to look at it in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Talk to you tomorrow!
>>>>> Kathryn
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn at llnl.gov
>>>>> <mailto:kathryn at llnl.gov>, http://scalability.llnl.gov/
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>>>>> CA, USA
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> <tools-3.pdf>
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>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>> Kathryn Mohror, kathryn at llnl.gov
>>>> <mailto:kathryn at llnl.gov>, http://scalability.llnl.gov/
>>>> Scalability Team @ Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore,
>>>> CA, USA
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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