From howardp at lanl.gov  Mon Jun 14 09:35:33 2021
From: howardp at lanl.gov (Pritchard Jr., Howard)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:35:33 +0000
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - resume meeting today
Message-ID: <8AC6196D-432D-4138-814A-418035837AF4@lanl.gov>

HI All,

Let?s restart our meetings if we can get a quorum.

Agenda items I have:

  *   MPI 4.1 follow up ? check issues and discuss other items we may want to track via issues
  *   Resume where we were back on May 10 with Martin Schreiber?s doc: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NLAMZtH5B3bVSnWk-ZxM9FhCJesZ92rL

Howard

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Research Scientist
HPC-ENV

Los Alamos National Laboratory
howardp at lanl.gov

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From danholmes at chi.scot  Mon Jun 14 12:51:27 2021
From: danholmes at chi.scot (Dan Holmes)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:51:27 +0100
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - resume meeting today
In-Reply-To: <8AC6196D-432D-4138-814A-418035837AF4@lanl.gov>
References: <8AC6196D-432D-4138-814A-418035837AF4@lanl.gov>
Message-ID: <7DD7AC32-605D-467D-91D4-1B50EB20C0D8@chi.scot>

Hi all,

I spent the freed-up hour drawing this state transition diagram (see attached).

I dumped it into the ?ver4? google doc for safe-keeping, in case it is useful.



Cheers,
Dan.
?
Dr Daniel Holmes PhD
Executive Director
Chief Technology Officer
CHI Ltd
danholmes at chi.scot



> On 14 Jun 2021, at 15:35, Pritchard Jr., Howard via mpiwg-sessions <mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote:
> 
> HI All,
>  
> Let?s restart our meetings if we can get a quorum.
>  
> Agenda items I have:
> MPI 4.1 follow up ? check issues and discuss other items we may want to track via issues
> Resume where we were back on May 10 with Martin Schreiber?s doc: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NLAMZtH5B3bVSnWk-ZxM9FhCJesZ92rL <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NLAMZtH5B3bVSnWk-ZxM9FhCJesZ92rL>
>  
> Howard
> 
> ?
>  
> <image001.png>
> Howard Pritchard
> Research Scientist
> HPC-ENV
>  
> Los Alamos National Laboratory
> howardp at lanl.gov <mailto:howardp at lanl.gov>
>  
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>  
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From howardp at lanl.gov  Mon Jun 21 08:34:46 2021
From: howardp at lanl.gov (Pritchard Jr., Howard)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 13:34:46 +0000
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet today
Message-ID: <856A96D8-BBD4-4878-BC74-988041157F1D@lanl.gov>

HI All,

We?ll meet today.  On the agenda are

  *   Presentation from Tony about a MPI events proposal
  *   Continue where we were on state transition discussion, we can start off with Dan?s helpful diagram.

Howard



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Research Scientist
HPC-ENV

Los Alamos National Laboratory
howardp at lanl.gov

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From howardp at lanl.gov  Fri Jun 25 09:00:39 2021
From: howardp at lanl.gov (Pritchard Jr., Howard)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 14:00:39 +0000
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet on 6/28?
Message-ID: <DC4E3DED-D5C8-4B9E-A9C5-2806335929E6@lanl.gov>

Hi All,

Should we try to meet on 6/28?  A number of us are busy at ICS so curious to know if we can get a ?quorum? or not this coming Monday.

Howard


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[signature_61897647]

Howard Pritchard
Research Scientist
HPC-ENV

Los Alamos National Laboratory
howardp at lanl.gov

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From danholmes at chi.scot  Fri Jun 25 09:24:16 2021
From: danholmes at chi.scot (Dan Holmes)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 15:24:16 +0100
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet on 6/28?
In-Reply-To: <DC4E3DED-D5C8-4B9E-A9C5-2806335929E6@lanl.gov>
References: <DC4E3DED-D5C8-4B9E-A9C5-2806335929E6@lanl.gov>
Message-ID: <9AC07389-10B0-4265-8966-A53F9B89AB88@chi.scot>

Hi Howard,

I can make the normal Sessions WG time slot next week.

Cheers,
Dan.
?
Dr Daniel Holmes PhD
Executive Director
Chief Technology Officer
CHI Ltd
danholmes at chi.scot



> On 25 Jun 2021, at 15:00, Pritchard Jr., Howard via mpiwg-sessions <mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> Should we try to meet on 6/28?  A number of us are busy at ICS so curious to know if we can get a ?quorum? or not this coming Monday.
>  
> Howard
>  
> 
> ?
>  
> <image001.png>
> Howard Pritchard
> Research Scientist
> HPC-ENV
>  
> Los Alamos National Laboratory
> howardp at lanl.gov <mailto:howardp at lanl.gov>
>  
> <image002.png> <https://www.instagram.com/losalamosnatlab/><image003.png> <https://twitter.com/LosAlamosNatLab><image004.png> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/los-alamos-national-laboratory/><image005.png> <https://www.facebook.com/LosAlamosNationalLab/>
>  
>  
> _______________________________________________
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From martin.schreiber at tum.de  Mon Jun 28 05:09:42 2021
From: martin.schreiber at tum.de (Schreiber, Martin)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 10:09:42 +0000
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet on 6/28?
In-Reply-To: <9AC07389-10B0-4265-8966-A53F9B89AB88@chi.scot>
References: <DC4E3DED-D5C8-4B9E-A9C5-2806335929E6@lanl.gov>
	<9AC07389-10B0-4265-8966-A53F9B89AB88@chi.scot>
Message-ID: <a9fc5a28f1b8cd9596e61c3bd0cc66ee95bfd815.camel@tum.de>

Hi all,

I'm not feeling that well today, so I'd prefer to skip it.

Anyhow, I just updated our sketch

https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_l_Rxe9Q=/
with (I think) some major changes reflecting my point of view on the
interfaces.

The old version is still available below "my frame" in other frames.

In particular, I don't like this separation of "giving it away" or
"taking resources".

I think it should be just a resource change and whether the opposite
partner is OK with this resource change or not. This is now included in
the updated sketch.

All the best,

Martin




On Fri, 2021-06-25 at 15:24 +0100, Dan Holmes via mpiwg-sessions wrote:
> Hi Howard,
> 
> I can make the normal Sessions WG time slot next week.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dan.
> ?
> Dr Daniel Holmes PhD
> Executive Director
> Chief Technology Officer
> CHI Ltd
> danholmes at chi.scot
> 
> 
> 
> > On 25 Jun 2021, at 15:00, Pritchard Jr., Howard via mpiwg-sessions
> > <mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > ?
> > Should we try to meet on 6/28?? A number of us are busy at ICS so
> > curious to know if we can get a ?quorum? or not this coming Monday.
> > ?
> > Howard
> > ?
> > 
> > ?
> > ?
> > <image001.png>
> > Howard Pritchard
> > Research Scientist
> > HPC-ENV
> > ?
> > Los Alamos National Laboratory
> > howardp at lanl.gov
> > ?
> > <image002.png><image003.png><image004.png><image005.png>
> > 
> > ?
> > ?
> > _______________________________________________
> > mpiwg-sessions mailing list
> > mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org
> > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions
> 
> _______________________________________________
> mpiwg-sessions mailing list
> mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org
> https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions

-- 
Until August 31st:
| Dr. Martin Schreiber
| Technical University of Munich
| 85748 Garching, Germany

From September 1st on:
| Prof. Dr. Martin Schreiber
| High-Performance and Scientific Computing
| Universit? Grenoble Alpes / Laboratoire Jean Kuntzmann
| 700 avenue Centrale, 38400 Saint Martin d'H?res, France



From schulzm at in.tum.de  Mon Jun 28 08:12:44 2021
From: schulzm at in.tum.de (Martin Schulz)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 15:12:44 +0200
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Sessions WG - meet on 6/28?
In-Reply-To: <a9fc5a28f1b8cd9596e61c3bd0cc66ee95bfd815.camel@tum.de>
References: <DC4E3DED-D5C8-4B9E-A9C5-2806335929E6@lanl.gov>
	<9AC07389-10B0-4265-8966-A53F9B89AB88@chi.scot>
	<a9fc5a28f1b8cd9596e61c3bd0cc66ee95bfd815.camel@tum.de>
Message-ID: <3F3F0F2D-8E87-4E24-8F38-76B9A58D0A2D@in.tum.de>

I can't make it either - next week should be "normal" again.

Thanks,

Martin


-- 
Prof. Dr. Martin Schulz, Chair of Computer Architecture and Parallel Systems
Department of Informatics, TU-Munich, Boltzmannstra?e 3, D-85748 Garching
Member of the Board of Directors at the Leibniz Supercomputing Centre (LRZ)
Email: schulzm at in.tum.de
 
 

?On 28.06.21, 12:11, "mpiwg-sessions on behalf of Schreiber,	Martin via mpiwg-sessions" <mpiwg-sessions-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org on behalf of mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I'm not feeling that well today, so I'd prefer to skip it.

    Anyhow, I just updated our sketch

    https://miro.com/app/board/o9J_l_Rxe9Q=/
    with (I think) some major changes reflecting my point of view on the
    interfaces.

    The old version is still available below "my frame" in other frames.

    In particular, I don't like this separation of "giving it away" or
    "taking resources".

    I think it should be just a resource change and whether the opposite
    partner is OK with this resource change or not. This is now included in
    the updated sketch.

    All the best,

    Martin




    On Fri, 2021-06-25 at 15:24 +0100, Dan Holmes via mpiwg-sessions wrote:
    > Hi Howard,
    > 
    > I can make the normal Sessions WG time slot next week.
    > 
    > Cheers,
    > Dan.
    > ?
    > Dr Daniel Holmes PhD
    > Executive Director
    > Chief Technology Officer
    > CHI Ltd
    > danholmes at chi.scot
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > > On 25 Jun 2021, at 15:00, Pritchard Jr., Howard via mpiwg-sessions
    > > <mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org> wrote:
    > > 
    > > Hi All,
    > >  
    > > Should we try to meet on 6/28?  A number of us are busy at ICS so
    > > curious to know if we can get a ?quorum? or not this coming Monday.
    > >  
    > > Howard
    > >  
    > > 
    > > ?
    > >  
    > > <image001.png>
    > > Howard Pritchard
    > > Research Scientist
    > > HPC-ENV
    > >  
    > > Los Alamos National Laboratory
    > > howardp at lanl.gov
    > >  
    > > <image002.png><image003.png><image004.png><image005.png>
    > > 
    > >  
    > >  
    > > _______________________________________________
    > > mpiwg-sessions mailing list
    > > mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org
    > > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions
    > 
    > _______________________________________________
    > mpiwg-sessions mailing list
    > mpiwg-sessions at lists.mpi-forum.org
    > https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-sessions

    -- 
    Until August 31st:
    | Dr. Martin Schreiber
    | Technical University of Munich
    | 85748 Garching, Germany

    From September 1st on:
    | Prof. Dr. Martin Schreiber
    | High-Performance and Scientific Computing
    | Universit? Grenoble Alpes / Laboratoire Jean Kuntzmann
    | 700 avenue Centrale, 38400 Saint Martin d'H?res, France


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From howardp at lanl.gov  Mon Jun 28 09:44:19 2021
From: howardp at lanl.gov (Pritchard Jr., Howard)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:44:19 +0000
Subject: [mpiwg-sessions] Session WG - not meeting today
Message-ID: <BDF7C3B2-1B2D-4AA7-8BEA-01349AC7C5D7@lanl.gov>

Hi All,

Looks like we will not have a ?quorum? for today?s Sessions WG meeting so canceling.
We?ll resume next Monday.

Howard



?

[signature_61897647]

Howard Pritchard
Research Scientist
HPC-ENV

Los Alamos National Laboratory
howardp at lanl.gov

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