[Mpi3-ft] Defining the state of MPI after an error

Bronis R. de Supinski bronis at llnl.gov
Mon Sep 20 09:50:29 CDT 2010


Dick:

While those errors are in the application, the inability
to continue using MPI can significantly complicate the
implementation of tools that check for such errors. The
highest performance mechanism to implement communication
for those tools is MPI. However, one cannot reliably use
it if such errors occur.

Bronis


On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Richard Treumann wrote:

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> How does an application experience errors in classes (MPI_ERR_COUNT, MPI_ERR_TAG) except by a bug in the application itself?
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> How can it be easier for someone to know how to continue from an arbitrary application bug with confidence that the application is still giving good answers, than to just fix the app?
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> Dick Treumann  -  MPI Team
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> From:   Joshua Hursey <jjhursey at open-mpi.org>
> To:     "MPI 3.0 Fault Tolerance and Dynamic Process Control working Group" <mpi3-ft at lists.mpi-forum.org>
> Date:   09/20/2010 10:05 AM
> Subject:        [Mpi3-ft] Defining the state of MPI after an error
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> During EuroMPI and the MPI Forum meeting last week the issue of the MPI state after an error was brought up a few times. The issue is that since the state is undefined then no portable program can be written that uses the errorhandlers then MPI functionality following the error. This issue is particularly difficult for applications that wish to catch informational or warning type errors (e.g., MPI_ERR_COUNT, MPI_ERR_TAG, MPI_ERR_UNSUPPORTED_OPERATION). These operations are often recoverable by the MPI implementation and/or the application.
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> To address this portability issue, I am bringing out the MPI_ERR_CANNOT_CONTINUE error class from the stabilization proposal. I presented the idea to the MPI Forum during a plenary session last week and received a positive response on building a formal proposal [Straw vote: 22 (yes), 0 (no), 3 (abstain)].
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> I have created a first draft of the proposal for the working group to review on the wiki at the link below:
> https://BLOCKEDsvn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/ft/err_cannot_continue
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> I would like to have this proposal ready by the Oct. meeting so we can have a formal plenary session on it. If all goes well, maybe we can get a first reading by Dec.
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> Let me know what you think about this proposal.
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> -- Josh
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> Joshua Hursey
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