[MPIWG Fortran] Dec mtg: MPI 4: deprecate SIZEOF and mpif.h

[Bill Long]

On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Balaji, Pavan <balaji at anl.gov> wrote:

> 
> With one minor addition — new functionality will not have deprecated equivalents (at least that’s the model we used with C++).  So everything that gets added in MPI-4 will be “use mpi” or “use mpi_f08” only, if this passes.

OK. That’s what I was hoping.  Did you mean “use mpi” *and* “use mpi_f08” only?   I would not expect those to be diverging, at least yet.

Cheers,
Bill

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>  — Pavan
> 
>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:09 AM, William Gropp <wgropp at illinois.edu> wrote:
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>> Deprecate in MPI uses the same definition that the Fortran standards have used - discouraged from use and a candidate for deletion in a future standard.  Thus, until formally deleted, it must be implemented and appear in mpif.h (as mpif.h is now defined).
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Bill Long <longb at cray.com> wrote:
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>>> Seems reasonable to me.  
>>> 
>>> Are there plans for a Webex meeting for the Fortran working group before the December MPI meeting in San Jose?  This is a “vacation challenged” time of the year - I’m scheduled to be in the office only 3 days between December 5 and 31. 
>>> 
>>> How does MPI define “deprecate”?  For example,  would any new feature/function be excluded from mpif.h?   Personally, I think that would be a good idea - it simplifies maintenance of the distribution and emphasizes that mpif.h is for legacy use only.  But I can imagine other opinions. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:22 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <jsquyres at cisco.com> wrote:
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>>>> I won't have time to do any prep in detail until after SC and the subsequent US thanksgiving holiday, but are these 2 topics that we want to discuss in December?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my phone. No type good. 
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Bill Long                                                                       longb at cray.com
Fortran Technical Suport  &                                  voice:  651-605-9024
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