[mpi3-coll] Non-blocking Collectives Proposal Draft

Rajeev Thakur thakur at mcs.anl.gov
Wed Oct 15 15:46:39 CDT 2008


We can do whatever we want really. It's not terribly important whether
nonblocking is hyphenated or not.

Rajeev 


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> Torsten Hoefler
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:38 PM
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> Subject: Re: [mpi3-coll] Non-blocking Collectives Proposal Draft
> 
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 03:24:49PM -0500, Rajeev Thakur wrote:
> > I just walked over to our editor, Gail Pieper, and asked 
> her the reason. She
> > said that if the alphabets that the prefix connects are 
> different, as in
> > nonblocking or noncontiguous, the convention nowadays is to 
> drop the hyphen.
> > You would keep the hyphen in words like re-establish and 
> also in words that
> > would read weird without the hyphen, like non-organic (nono 
> rganic). This is
> > the convention followed by the Chicago Manual of Style, the 
> Associated Press
> > Manual, and the MLA Manual (Modern Language Association).
> hmm, I just read your cited Chicago Manual of Style (CMS) and found:
> http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch07/ch07_sec085.html
> which reads:
> "A hyphen can make for easier reading by showing structure and, often,
> pronunciation." ... "Where no ambiguity could result, as in public
> welfare administration or graduate student housing, hyphenation is not
> mandatory, though it is quite acceptable and preferred by many writers
> and editors."
> 
> (you should read the complete page)
> 
> > > Also, if you do the <pick your favorit search enigne> 
> test (I know ...
> > > but languages are dynamically changed by their users), 
> you'll see that
> > > non-blocking seems to be the most-used term in the I/O and 
> > > communication
> > > context.
> > 
> > Web searches are not useful for this because most people's 
> English is not
> > that good.
> I strongly disagree. A language is determined by the people 
> who use it,
> who defines what the correct language is? Even the CMS says 
> things like:
> "With frequent use" or "have become widely accepted,". See
> http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/ch07/ch07_sec084.html for more of
> this :). I know, especially as a German, that a clearly 
> defined language
> is preferred, but I think our case is not clearly defined (or can you
> cite a particular part of CMS?). 
> 
> If we don't have a clear definition, I'd like to go with the 
> unofficial
> conventions. Those unofficial conventions can be backed up with web
> searches reasonably well (I read the first few results and those were
> reasonable hits).
> 
> All the Best,
>   Torsten
> 
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