[Mpi3-subsetting] MPI3: Proposal to remove PMPI-Requirement

[Supalov, Alexander]

Dear Rainer,

Would you mind uploading your paper sent around on March 5 (see below)
to the MPI Subsetting Wiki
(http://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/wiki/SubsettingWikiPage)? 

Alternatively, if you have a link to some more or less permanent Web
location, please send it to me - I would like to use it as a reference
in the subsetting proposal.

Sorry for the broadcast - I don't appear to have your direct address.

Best regards.

Alexander 

-----Original Message-----
From: mpi3-subsetting-bounces_at_[hidden]
[mailto:mpi3-subsetting-bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of Rainer
Keller
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:15 PM
To: MPI3-Subsetting_at_[hidden]
Subject: [Mpi3-subsetting] MPI3: Proposal to remove PMPI-Requirement

Dear Alexander, dear all,
at the previous Chicago meeting, some of us (Rich Graham, Jeff Squyres,
Hubert 
Ritzdorf) have been discussing about the MPI-Standard's requirement to 
provide PMPI-functions for each MPI-Call into the library (except
MPI_Wtime, 
MPI_Wtick).

This is in my eyes a limitation: there could be some gains for the
common case 
of large-scale applications:
 - Not using PMPI-based tools (dynamically loaded in)
 - Not using MPI_PROC_NULL
 - Not using MPI_STATUS_IGNORE

So, if this proposal would fit Your definition of MPI3-Subsets, I would
like 
to discuss the removal of the PMPI-function requirement, allowing
inlining of 
MPI-functions and, based on that, pre-processor hints, e.g. 
MPI_HINT_NO_THREADS or MPI_HINT_NO_ANY_SOURCE, so the compiler might be
able 
to eliminate several if-statements in the fast-path, allowing inlining, 
allowing dead code elimination.
(of course, there is a whole lot of further issues involved, here --
please 
see the last section in the document).

I have included some timings with NetPipe on Open MPI using these hints 
(further information section 4 -- Ompi Patch availble upon request, as
its 
work in progress). Please take the timings with a grain of salt. I would
like 
to get better figures on a more well-defined cluster environment.

Any comments would be welcome.

With best regards,
Rainer

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