From jeffb at [hidden] Thu Jun 19 12:15:31 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:15:31 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <3993C75C-10F0-438B-A3FA-3AA41FEF64F0@cisco.com> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080619110235.02d17c80@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> folks, I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations then start populating the ABI column. Jeff From jeffb at [hidden] Thu Jun 19 14:33:29 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:33:29 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080619110235.02d17c80@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080619133147.02d48788@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> The conference call is scheduled. Dial in number: 665-2778 local 866-736-2112 toll free I hope the lines stay up this time! Jeff At 11:15 AM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >folks, > >I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. > >In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet posted >on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that categorizes each >item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp paper. The next step >would be to agree on these categorizations then start populating the >ABI column. > >Jeff > > >_______________________________________________ >mpi3-abi mailing list >mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi From jsquyres at [hidden] Thu Jun 19 16:15:43 2008 From: jsquyres at [hidden] (Jeff Squyres) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:15:43 -0400 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080619133147.02d48788@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: Unfortunately, I have a conflict at that time (same conflict that caused me to miss the subsetting teleconf). :-( On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Jeff Brown wrote: > The conference call is scheduled. > > Dial in number: 665-2778 local 866-736-2112 toll free > > I hope the lines stay up this time! > > Jeff > > At 11:15 AM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >> folks, >> >> I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. >> >> In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet >> posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that >> categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp >> paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations >> then start populating the ABI column. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpi3-abi mailing list >> mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >> http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi > > > _______________________________________________ > mpi3-abi mailing list > mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] > http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems From jeffb at [hidden] Thu Jun 19 16:27:05 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:27:05 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080619152549.02d89e00@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> If you get a chance, please take a look at the spreadsheet and send us your thoughts (just in case you may have an opinion or two). Jeff At 03:15 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote: >Unfortunately, I have a conflict at that time (same conflict that >caused me to miss the subsetting teleconf). :-( > > >On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Jeff Brown wrote: > >>The conference call is scheduled. >> >>Dial in number: 665-2778 local 866-736-2112 toll free >> >>I hope the lines stay up this time! >> >>Jeff >> >>At 11:15 AM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>>folks, >>> >>>I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. >>> >>>In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet >>>posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that >>>categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp >>>paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations >>>then start populating the ABI column. >>> >>>Jeff >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>mpi3-abi mailing list >>>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>mpi3-abi mailing list >>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi > > >-- >Jeff Squyres >Cisco Systems > >_______________________________________________ >mpi3-abi mailing list >mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi From jeffb at [hidden] Wed Jun 25 10:59:19 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:59:19 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080619133147.02d48788@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080625095659.02bab090@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> reminder - telecon tomorrow (Thursday) at 10:00 MDT latest spreadsheet attached ... We will go over the "Class" column and start discussing populating the ABI column. Jeff At 01:33 PM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >The conference call is scheduled. > >Dial in number: 665-2778 local 866-736-2112 toll free > >I hope the lines stay up this time! > >Jeff > >At 11:15 AM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>folks, >> >>I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. >> >>In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet >>posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that >>categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp >>paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations >>then start populating the ABI column. >> >>Jeff >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>mpi3-abi mailing list >>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi > > >_______________________________________________ >mpi3-abi mailing list >mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi * -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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MDT. >>> >>>In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet >>>posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that >>>categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp >>>paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations >>>then start populating the ABI column. >>> >>>Jeff >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>mpi3-abi mailing list >>>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>mpi3-abi mailing list >>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi > > >_______________________________________________ >mpi3-abi mailing list >mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi * -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alexander -- Dr Alexander Supalov Intel GmbH Hermuelheimer Strasse 8a 50321 Bruehl, Germany Phone: +49 2232 209034 Mobile: +49 173 511 8735 Fax: +49 2232 209029 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel GmbH Dornacher Strasse 1 85622 Feldkirchen/Muenchen Germany Sitz der Gesellschaft: Feldkirchen bei Muenchen Geschaeftsfuehrer: Douglas Lusk, Peter Gleissner, Hannes Schwaderer Registergericht: Muenchen HRB 47456 Ust.-IdNr. VAT Registration No.: DE129385895 Citibank Frankfurt (BLZ 502 109 00) 600119052 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexander.supalov at [hidden] Thu Jun 26 11:41:07 2008 From: alexander.supalov at [hidden] (Supalov, Alexander) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:41:07 +0100 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080625100334.02ea8018@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <5ECAB1304A8B5B4CB3F9D6C01E4E21A2017CA9B9@swsmsx413.ger.corp.intel.com> Hi everybody, Unfortunately, I was unable to connect under +1-505-606-1201. Here's what I'd like to say about the classes introduced into the spreadsheet: This comes from Bill Gropp's paper on GMPI, a layer that would insulate MPI details from the client. Since ABI is going to act almost like GMPI, this classification seems to be applicable to our case as well. The classes are as follows: o Compile-time values § Used in declarations (MPI_MAX_ERROR_STRING, etc.) Since preprocessor and compiler are involved, there's no chance for ABI other than to agree on common values for all complying implementations. § Other (MPI_ANY_SOURCE, MPI_ERR_TRUNCATE, etc.) These we can translate within the ABI wrapper, if any. o Init-time constants (MPI_INT, etc.) Same here. These conceptually come to be after MPI_Init. Mind the array conversion in the collective *v calls, though. o Opaque objects (MPI_Comm, MPI_Datatype, etc.) Same here. o Defined objects (MPI_Status) This is the biggest problem of all, most likely requiring an extension to the MPI API. o Defined pointers (MPI_BOTTOM, MPI_STATUS_NULL, etc.) I bet we can try to translate these in the wrapper. See Status above. The next step would be to check the classification for correctness, and then set about defining the standard entity sizes and their encoding. Best regards. Alexander -----Original Message----- From: mpi3-abi-bounces_at_[hidden] [mailto:mpi3-abi-bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of Jeff Brown Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:04 PM To: MPI 3.0 ABI working group; MPI 3.0 ABI working group Subject: Re: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 eems I attached an old version - here's the latest At 09:59 AM 6/25/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >reminder - telecon tomorrow (Thursday) at 10:00 MDT > >latest spreadsheet attached ... > >We will go over the "Class" column and start discussing populating >the ABI column. > >Jeff > >At 01:33 PM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>The conference call is scheduled. >> >>Dial in number: 665-2778 local 866-736-2112 toll free >> >>I hope the lines stay up this time! >> >>Jeff >> >>At 11:15 AM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>>folks, >>> >>>I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. >>> >>>In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet >>>posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that >>>categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp >>>paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations >>>then start populating the ABI column. >>> >>>Jeff >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>mpi3-abi mailing list >>>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>mpi3-abi mailing list >>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi > > >_______________________________________________ >mpi3-abi mailing list >mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel GmbH Dornacher Strasse 1 85622 Feldkirchen/Muenchen Germany Sitz der Gesellschaft: Feldkirchen bei Muenchen Geschaeftsfuehrer: Douglas Lusk, Peter Gleissner, Hannes Schwaderer Registergericht: Muenchen HRB 47456 Ust.-IdNr. VAT Registration No.: DE129385895 Citibank Frankfurt (BLZ 502 109 00) 600119052 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. From jeffb at [hidden] Thu Jun 26 15:50:42 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:50:42 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080625095659.02bab090@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080626144849.02d85b28@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> All, We covered a fair amount of ground at the telecon today. Attached is the ABI spreadsheet with the beginnings of an ABI column filled out (also posted to the wiki). We left the fun ones for the face-face WG session next week. See you at the meeting. Jeff At 09:59 AM 6/25/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >reminder - telecon tomorrow (Thursday) at 10:00 MDT > >latest spreadsheet attached ... > >We will go over the "Class" column and start discussing populating >the ABI column. > >Jeff > >At 01:33 PM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>The conference call is scheduled. >> >>Dial in number: 665-2778 local 866-736-2112 toll free >> >>I hope the lines stay up this time! >> >>Jeff >> >>At 11:15 AM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>>folks, >>> >>>I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. >>> >>>In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet >>>posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that >>>categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp >>>paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations >>>then start populating the ABI column. >>> >>>Jeff >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>mpi3-abi mailing list >>>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>mpi3-abi mailing list >>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi > > >_______________________________________________ >mpi3-abi mailing list >mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi * -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: MPI_ABI_OpenMPI___MPICH2___HPMPI___LAMPI___NEC___vendors.xls Type: application/octet-stream Size: 126976 bytes Desc: MPI_ABI_OpenMPI___MPICH2___HPMPI___LAMPI___NEC___vendors.xls URL: From jeffb at [hidden] Thu Jun 26 15:54:15 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:54:15 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080626144849.02d85b28@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080626145343.02edfb90@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Note that several of the rows are tagged "need data". Please update for your implementation. Jeff At 02:50 PM 6/26/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >All, > >We covered a fair amount of ground at the telecon today. Attached >is the ABI spreadsheet with the beginnings of an ABI column filled >out (also posted to the wiki). We left the fun ones for the >face-face WG session next week. > >See you at the meeting. > >Jeff > >At 09:59 AM 6/25/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>reminder - telecon tomorrow (Thursday) at 10:00 MDT >> >>latest spreadsheet attached ... >> >>We will go over the "Class" column and start discussing populating >>the ABI column. >> >>Jeff >> >>At 01:33 PM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>>The conference call is scheduled. >>> >>>Dial in number: 665-2778 local 866-736-2112 toll free >>> >>>I hope the lines stay up this time! >>> >>>Jeff >>> >>>At 11:15 AM 6/19/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >>>>folks, >>>> >>>>I'll schedule a telecon for Thursday 26 at 10:00 A.M. MDT. >>>> >>>>In the meantime, please take a look at the latest spreadsheet >>>>posted on June 4. Alexander added a "Class" column that >>>>categorizes each item according to the taxonomy in the Gropp >>>>paper. The next step would be to agree on these categorizations >>>>then start populating the ABI column. >>>> >>>>Jeff >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>mpi3-abi mailing list >>>>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>>>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>mpi3-abi mailing list >>>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>mpi3-abi mailing list >>mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >>http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi > > >_______________________________________________ >mpi3-abi mailing list >mpi3-abi_at_[hidden] >http://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mpi3-abi From jeffb at [hidden] Fri Jun 27 10:56:49 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:56:49 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080626145343.02edfb90@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080627095457.02edf7b8@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> All, Something has come up at the lab and I will not be able to make the meeting next week. Have a good meeting. Jeff From jeffb at [hidden] Fri Jun 27 11:27:53 2008 From: jeffb at [hidden] (Jeff Brown) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:27:53 -0600 Subject: [Mpi3-abi] telecon Thursday June 26 In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20080627095457.02edf7b8@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080627102715.02eccd60@ccs-mail.lanl.gov> I need a volunteer to stand in for me next week as the ABI WG lead. At 09:56 AM 6/27/2008, Jeff Brown wrote: >All, > >Something has come up at the lab and I will not be able to make the >meeting next week. > >Have a good meeting. > >Jeff > >