[Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket

[Jeff Hammond]

So you think p2p WG is more central that hybrid WG?  I don't understand what solution you're proposing. Everyone will see it when it's ready for plenary. Or do you propose a new method by which tickets are brought to the forum? You need to be constructive here, not just malign the efforts others have put into this already. 

Jeff

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> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Richard Graham <richardg at mellanox.com> wrote:
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> I can certainly do this, but this has potentially broad implications to a central part of the MPI standard, so discussion needs to be in a natural and visible place.  This is not the first time this sort of idea has been raised (I remember this being discussed well before the Forum was restarted almost 7 years ago) and it was shot down quickly, so need to make sure we have a broad and well thought out discussion here.
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> Rich
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> From: mpi-forum [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hammond
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:52 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket
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> I recommend signing up for the hybrid WG email list and adding yourself to the cc box of both tickets. 
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> December in San Jose is a great time to discuss these tickets and you'll be current on both at that point. 
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> Jeff
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Richard Graham <richardg at mellanox.com> wrote:
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> It has some of the interested parties, not all.  I am interested in such items, and thought that the whole topic had fallen off the plate, so was very surprised to hear there is a concrete proposal, which in my view is incomplete.
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> Rich
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> From: mpi-forum [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hammond
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:29 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket
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> Hybrid WG already had all the interested parties and was active. I don't recall p2p WG was particularly active when discussion of 381 started ~2 years ago. 
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> As always, every member of the forum can participate in any WG and 381/461 were always discussed in the open for anyone to see. 
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> As it currently stands, p2p WG has more than enough to discuss without this ticket. 
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> Note also that some of the info keys discussed have a greater impact when threads are involved, hence are connected to hybrid. 
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> Jeff
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> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Richard Graham <richardg at mellanox.com> wrote:
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> Why is such a proposal coming out of the hybrid working group ?  This is more appropriate for the point-to-point working group.  Not that it is that critical what the group name is, but more to get feedback from a wide range of folks interested is such topics.
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> Rich
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> From: mpi-forum [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Jim Dinan
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:58 AM
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> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket
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> Hi All,
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> The hybrid working group would like to put forward ticket #461 (https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/461) for consideration for MPI 3.1, with a formal reading at the upcoming December meeting.
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> This ticket proposes the no_any_tag and no_any_source info keys, on which we have achieved consensus.  We continue to have vigorous and productive debate on additional communicator info keys proposals that have been captured in #381.  We will pursue these additional proposals for MPI 4.0.
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> Thanks and see you in December,
>  ~Jim.
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