[Mpi-forum] Voting results

Jeff Squyres jsquyres at cisco.com
Wed May 30 14:18:12 CDT 2012


On May 30, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Underwood, Keith D wrote:

> And, would any of the tickets that passed in the US not have passed under the "new" rules?  

I have not checked the prior ballots.

> I don't believe this hasn't been a major issue in the past, and there has always been a discussion of things that was basically "if a vote goes 6/5/5 (yes/no/abstain), it really shouldn't pass".  That isn't consensus, and we always talk about being a consensus based organization. 

To be fair, Brian (who took the votes for me, and did an outstanding job) asked me specifically about this point last week.

I told him that our prior precedent has always been that the vote final results are the vote final results -- consensus or not.  IMNSHO: the "consensus" element of our community is really focused on straw votes and first votes.  E.g., if a proposal's straw vote shows a high degree of non-consensus, then the author should really re-work it and strive for larger consensus.  Similarly, if a first vote passes but has lots of no votes or abstains, we as a consensus-striving community should re-work the proposal for larger consensus (and therefore probably reset the clock) -- potentially even postponing the 2nd vote, etc.

FWIW: All of these issues are definitely magnified by the fact that the sun has now set on getting something into MPI-3 -- there were a *huge* number of proposals and readings over the past 3 meetings in final attempts to get things into MPI-3.

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