[Mpi-forum] MPI_Count

[Hubert Ritzdorf]

I can remember that we had Fortran users and C users
who had problems 32-bit count arguments on NEC SX systems.
The Fortran users used the extended width option
of the Fortran compiler and the corresponding MPI library
to overcome the problem.
The C users used the same (extended width) version of MPI library
and an extension in our MPI include file (there is a typedef for
int's in the function interfaces).

Hubert

-----Original Message-----
From: mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of Rajeev Thakur
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:52 AM
To: 'Main MPI Forum mailing list'
Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] MPI_Count

I don't know who wants to communicate >2GB at a time, but HP seemed to have enough users wanting it to cause Kannan to create and
pursue ticket #117 until he moved to a different project.

Rajeev


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> [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces at lists.mpi-forum.org] On Behalf Of 
> Underwood, Keith D
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 5:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] MPI_Count
> 
> > Still seems a little odd to have a solution for I/O 
> functions and not 
> > for communication functions (the original ticket was for 
> communication 
> > https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/117).
> > If > 2GB can be written from a single process in a single 
> call, they 
> > can also be communicated. If it is tedious to break up the 
> write into 
> > smaller writes, the same applies to communication.
> 
> "can be" and "will be" are very different phrases.  The 
> feeling within the group that was there Thursday morning was 
> that the "way 64 bit is done" (TM) is to replicate all of the 
> function calls.  The group felt like a compelling case had 
> been made for I/O, because you would want to write all of 
> your memory to file (e.g. checkpointing) and memory per node 
> is growing beyond 2 GB.  However, it was much harder to make 
> the case that you really wanted to send that much data from a 
> contiguous location to any other node.  In fact, someone made 
> the statement "all of the application users understand that 
> you can't do that and still scale on any network in the 
> foreseeable future".
> 
> Your interoperability comments may be a more motivating 
> example, but as of Thursday morning, it was clear that there 
> was not consensus among the forum members who were - 
> especially given the pain that is going to be involved in 
> fixing this for the general case.
> 
> Keith
> 
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