[Mpi-22] Fwd: [MPI Forum] #171: change MPI_C_BOOL external32size to 1 byte
William Gropp
wgropp at [hidden]
Tue Sep 8 13:27:51 CDT 2009
We've used a fairly open model, as long as it is clear what the change
is. Typically, this is
The section, page number(s) and line(s) in the MPI 2.2 standard that
are affected
The text being changed
The replacement text.
See the MPI 2.0 errata for another example.
On MPI 3.0, it is too early to begin this process. We don't even know
what chapters are in MPI 3.0; it is not clear that MPI 3.0 should be
written as an epsilon delta from 2.2; I'd like to see MPI 3.0 written
as coherent chapters, as we did in MPI 2.0.
Bill
On Sep 8, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
> A few followups...
>
> 1. How is it delineated on the ticket exactly what the errata text is
> to be? I see that you indicated what it precisely is for *this*
> ticket, but is there a standard form for indicating *exactly* what the
> errata text is for other tickets?
>
> 2. Does a separate ticket need to be filed for MPI 3.0, or is it
> assumed that the errata change will *also* be applied to the MPI-3.0
> latex? (you may have answered this implicitly via "We *never* change
> the document LaTex with an errata vote", but I wanted to be absolutely
> 100% crystal clear on this point)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2009, at 10:57 AM, William Gropp wrote:
>
>> We *never* change the document LaTex with an errata vote. Errata
>> items are collected into a separate document, which is updated as
>> items are approved. The standard consists of the document plus
>> approved errata items. This is the same process that was used with
>> MPI 2.0. Errata items normally should reference the page/line number
>> in the relevant document (in this case, the 2.2 document); in this
>> particular case, the errata was created before the final line and
>> page
>> numbers were available, and the Forum agreed that it was better to
>> fix
>> this through the errata process rather than delay the MPI 2.2
>> document. In this particular case, the precise errata item is
>>
>> In MPI 2.2, on page 433, line 22, change
>>
>> MPI_C_BOOL 4
>>
>> to
>>
>> MPI_C_BOOL 1
>>
>> I've updated the description to reflect this, as we discussed before
>> the vote.
>>
>> Once an item has been voted on twice, I will prepare a PDF containing
>> these items and add that to the MPI Forum web site as official errata
>> (again, this is what we did for MPI 2.0).
>>
>> The process of creating a new version of the document is not part of
>> the errata process. Should another version be desired, the errata
>> should be folded into it. That is what we did with MPI 2.1.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
>>
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>>> Forwarding this on to the general MPI-2.2 list because I'd like to
>>> ask for =
>>> clarifcation on the MPI-2.2 errata process (i.e., what *exactly* did
>>> we vot=
>>> e for on ticket #171?)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: "MPI Forum" <mpi-22_at_[hidden]<mailto:mpi-22_at_lists.mpi-forum=
>>> .org>>
>>> Date: September 7, 2009 10:13:23 AM EDT
>>> Subject: Re: [MPI Forum] #171: change MPI_C_BOOL external32 size to
>>> 1 byte
>>>
>>>
>>> #171: change MPI_C_BOOL external32 size to 1 byte
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>>> -
>>> Reporter: goodell
>>> | =
>>> Owner:
>>> Type: Correction to standard
>>> | =
>>> Status: new
>>> Priority: Had 1st vote
>>> | =
>>> Milestone: 2009/09/02 Helsinki
>>> Version: MPI 2.2 errata
>>> | =
>>> Keywords:
>>> Implementation: Unnecessary |
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>>> Comment(by jsquyres):
>>>
>>> After a little reflection, I'm a bit unclear on '''exactly''' what
>> we
>>> voted on for this ticket.
>>>
>>> Specifically, is this ticket a request to change the MPI-2.2 latex?
>>> If
>>> so, it is not in the proper form -- it should have the proper
>>> sections for
>>> all tickets.
>>>
>>> Or is this a ticket to add a bullet to the not-yet-created MPI-2.2
>>> errata
>>> document? If so, I don't see clearly delineated what text
>>> '''exactly'''
>>> is going into the new errata document.
>>>
>>> To be more clear: I believe that the entire MPI-2.2 errata process
>>> needs
>>> to be laid out. It seems clear to me that we need ''both'' changes
>>> to the
>>> MPI-2.2 latex (for the 2.3 or 3.0 or whatever the next MPI version
>>> document is) ''and'' a bullet for the MPI-2.2 errata document. Are
>>> there
>>> supposed to be two tickets; one for each item? Or should errata
>>> tickets
>>> have text for both documents (line-by-line changes compared to
>> MPI-2.2
>>> ''and'' a bullet item for the MPI-2.2 errata document)?
>>>
>>> I understand the urgency of this ticket, but I repeat something that
>>> Bill
>>> said many times in Helsinki: above all else, the process must be
>>> preserved
>>> (in this case: defined!). Pending clarification to the the MPI-2.2
>>> errata
>>> process, we might need to reset the clock on this ticket.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ticket URL: <https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/
>>> 171#commen=
>>> t:7>
>>> MPI Forum <https://svn.mpi-forum.org/>
>>> MPI Forum
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff Squyres
>>> jsquyres_at_[hidden]<mailto:jsquyres_at_[hidden]>
>>>
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>> William Gropp
>> Deputy Director for Research
>> Institute for Advanced Computing Applications and Technologies
>> Paul and Cynthia Saylor Professor of Computer Science
>> University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
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Paul and Cynthia Saylor Professor of Computer Science
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
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