<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Jeff,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Due to the summer break and vacation time, especially in Europe, we haven’t had a chance to address this - Marc-Andre had suggested a tools call on this for after EuroMPI and then we’ll know more (we need to get tool implementors to the table who are not part of the WG). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Personally, though, I fear you are right with your assumption, but I am happy to be proven wrong.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 29. Aug 2019, at 16:46, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpiwg-tools <<a href="mailto:mpiwg-tools@lists.mpi-forum.org" class="">mpiwg-tools@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Should I infer from the lack of reply that no tools properly handle either Fortran descriptors or the descriptor-based symbols?<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 25, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via mpiwg-tools <<a href="mailto:mpiwg-tools@lists.mpi-forum.org" class="">mpiwg-tools@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">In Open MPI, we are finally working towards supporting Fortran descriptors for choice buffers (i.e., "TYPE(*), DIMENSION(..)").<br class=""><br class="">Per MPI-3.1 p613 table 17.1, this means ***changing all the back-end symbols*** that are used for PMPI-style interception.<br class=""><br class="">A concrete example:<br class=""><br class="">- in mpif.h / the mpi module, MPI_SEND will become MPI_SEND_FTS<br class="">- in the mpi_f08 module, MPI_SEND will become MPI_SEND_F08TS<br class=""><br class="">I.e., anywhere the application calls MPI_SEND, it will be transmogrified to either MPI_SEND_FTS or MPI_SEND_F08TS. And the choice buffer passed will be a descriptor (which may therefore be a subarray, not a contiguous buffer), not a naked pointer.<br class=""><br class="">Here's my questions:<br class=""><br class="">1. Do any tools support Fortran descriptors as choice buffers?<br class="">2. Do any tools intercept the symbols as described in MPI-3.1 table 17.1?<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Jeff Squyres<br class=""><a href="mailto:jsquyres@cisco.com" class="">jsquyres@cisco.com</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">mpiwg-tools mailing list<br class="">mpiwg-tools@lists.mpi-forum.org<br class="">https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-tools<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Jeff Squyres<br class=""><a href="mailto:jsquyres@cisco.com" class="">jsquyres@cisco.com</a><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">mpiwg-tools mailing list<br class="">mpiwg-tools@lists.mpi-forum.org<br class="">https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-tools<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>