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<font size="4" face="monospace">Dear all,<br>
<br>
I'll be at a workshop on Monday, hence, it's not sure whether I
can attend this meeting.<br>
<br>
Resonating with Dominik, I'd like to propose that we're working in
the next months on writing down step-by-step the DPP approach</font><font
size="4" face="monospace"> in Latex as an extension to MPI, how it
works, the rationality, etc.<br>
<br>
We were working on this over the last years, had many discussions,
finally also have an implementation, others also use it, etc. I
think it's now time to try to get it into MPI.</font><font
size="4" face="monospace"><br>
<br>
In this way we'll structure things nicely, have some concrete
discussion basis, etc.<br>
Any feedback is appreciated.<br>
</font><br>
<font size="4" face="monospace">@Howard, if you have some better
idea, please let me know.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
<br>
</font><br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.01.25 10:47, Dominik Huber via
mpiwg-sessions wrote:<br>
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Hi Ralph, in this context, we are discussing a dynamic process
approach based on PSets and PSet operations (see Additional PSET
query/manipulation functions). The output of a PSet operation
would be a list of PSet IDs that might refer to new</div>
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<p>Hi Ralph,</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>in this context, we are discussing a dynamic process approach
based on PSets and PSet operations (see Additional<span> PSET
query/manipulation functions</span>).</p>
<p>The output of a PSet operation would be a list of PSet IDs
that might refer to new processes and can be used to create
new MPI groups/communicators.</p>
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<p>Regards,<br>
</p>
<p>Dominik<br>
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mpiwg-sessions
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2025 19:03:06<br>
<b>An:</b> Ralph Castain via mpiwg-sessions<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ralph Castain<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [mpiwg-sessions] Topics for Sessions WG
meeting 27th January 2025</font>
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Just curious - if you get rid of MPI_Comm_spawn, then how does
one generate new processes? I assume some other API must
replace it, so mostly wondering what that API is. FWIW:
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<div>FWIW: generating new processes without automatically
connecting them to the parent seems like a reasonable thing to
do, so long as you provide back some info (e.g., a group ID or
namespace) that allows you to do it later if you so choose.</div>
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<div
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me know if you have topics to discuss at our next
Sessions WG meeting on Monday 1/27/25.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div
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attached some slides with ideas for discussion by
the WG this calendar year. We can discuss these at
the meeting.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div
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Univ.-Prof. Dr. Martin Schreiber
Applied Mathematics | High Perf. Scientific Comp. for PDEs
Université Grenoble Alpes | Lab. Jean Kuntzmann | Inria | France</pre>
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