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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Let’s meet on 1/29 to continue discussions related to sessions and FT. 
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think what will help is to consider several use cases and implications.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here are some I have<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">App using sessions to init/finalize and create at least one initial communicator with MPI_Comm_create_from_group,  but also wants to use methods available in slice1 of ULFM proposal
 to shrink/repair communicators.  Are there any problems?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">App using sessions to init/finalize and create at least one initial communicator with MPI_Comm_create_from_group, and wants to use methods available in slice 1 of ULFM proposal to
 create new group from a pset and create a new communicator<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">App using sessions to init/finalize, etc. and when a fail-stop error is detected destroy the session, create a new session query for process sets, etc. and start all over.
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We should also consider the behavior of MPI_Comm_create_from_group if a process failure occurs while creating a new communicator.  The ULFM slice 1 discusses behavior of MPI_COMM_DUP and process failure.  We’d probably want similar behavior
 for MPI_Comm_create_from_group.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For those with access, the ULFM slice 1 PR is at <a href="https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/947">
https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/947</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Howard<o:p></o:p></p>
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