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Ahh snap! I forgot about the language meeting. I think John’s talk in the language WG will be interesting so I suggest we move the RMA WG meeting to next week. So: no RMA WG meeting today, we move to next week. Tim: maybe we can find a two-week</div>
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<meta charset="UTF-8"></head><body><pre style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 100%; white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word">Ahh snap! I forgot about the language meeting. I think John’s talk in
the language WG will be interesting so I suggest we move the RMA WG
meeting to next week.
So: no RMA WG meeting today, we move to next week.
Tim: maybe we can find a two-week cadence that works for both WGs?
For the RMA WG: Here is the link to the language WG wiki and the
abstract of John’s presentation today:
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Speaker: John Biddiscombe (CSCS)
Abstract:
C++ 26 introduces std
or ‘Senders’ which provides an API that allows one to attach
continuations (which can be viewed as callbacks) to functions executed
asynchronously. The user is free to compose chains of execution and
spawn new work in response to triggered callbacks. The API provides an
explicit mechanism to transfer work from one thread (or execution
context) to another which makes it simple to coordinate work between a
progress thread and worker threads. We have wrapped MPI_Requests in a
simple template wrapper that allows async MPI functions to be used as
senders with the polling and callback triggering hidden from the user to
give a clean interface and we present our results of using this approach
in a task based eigenvalue solver. We show some results of different
versions of pipelines used in our continuations and how they affect the
final timing of our miniapps. The API lends itself to a native C++ MPI
interface and we can imagine it being provided by a future MPI
implementation.
Thanks
Joseph
On 10/9/25 10:11, Christoph Niethammer wrote:
> Hi Joseph & Tim,
>
> There is a time conflict (at least) today with the RMA and Language WG meeting...
> Not sure who else is affected by this here. Maybe you can sort this out for the future?
>
> Best
> Christoph
>
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> Joseph
>
> On 10/7/25 10:11, Joseph Schuchart wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We should meet this Thursday to recap the Forum discussions on the
>> notified communication reading [1] and the device-side RMA
>> presentation [2]. We have a non-voting meeting for the notified
>> communication scheduled for October 29.
>>
>> We will meet at 10am US Central and the connection info is available
>> at
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