<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Brian makes a good point, and its a reminder that we need to look at everything with reference to the entire chapter.<div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Aug 19, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Torsten Hoefler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Agreed -- I think it's a bug and we should fix it asap.<br><br>Best,<br> Torsten<br><br>On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 03:47:39PM -0500, Rajeev Thakur wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">It is still disallowed in MPI-3 by this sentence<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pg 437, ln 28: Distinct access epochs for win at the same process must be disjoint. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 19, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Jim Dinan wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Jeff,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">With apologies if I have misunderstood your question. To clarify, the example Rajeev gave was forbidden in MPI-2. One could not have concurrent passive target access epochs, even if they accessed different targets. It is allowed in MPI-3.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> ~Jim.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Jeff Hammond <<a href="mailto:jeff.science@gmail.com">jeff.science@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">you mean lock at those ranks, not by those ranks? those aren't conflicting so i don't see the issue. maybe i am a dolt though.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">jeff<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Rajeev Thakur <<a href="mailto:thakur@mcs.anl.gov">thakur@mcs.anl.gov</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Did we make any change in MPI 3.0 to allow nesting of MPI_Win_lock calls? For example,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Win_lock(rank 1)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Win_lock(rank 2)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Win_unlock(rank 2)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Win_unlock(rank 1)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I can't find the text we added or deleted to allow this.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">But I do see text that disallows this:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 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