<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">One thing that would be very helpful would be to make a clear line in the pull request where everything before that line is what was voted on originally and everything after is what was necessary for embiggenment. Since this almost entirely will show up in the LaTeX (with a few changes in the normative text too), it would be helpful to keep the unrelated changes (e.g. whitespace, comments, etc.) to a minimum to make it easy for people to see what’s changed at a glance.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Wes</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Skjellum, Anthony via mpiwg-persistence <<a href="mailto:mpiwg-persistence@lists.mpi-forum.org" class="">mpiwg-persistence@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Martin, it is fine to cover this as you suggest in the virtual meeting; hopefully we will do this via ticket 0 in the end.</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">I agree this has to come after Bill's email issues.</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; 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MPI WG Persistence working Group <<a href="mailto:mpiwg-persistence@lists.mpi-forum.org" class="">mpiwg-persistence@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>>; William Gropp <<a href="mailto:wgropp@illinois.edu" class="">wgropp@illinois.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [mpiwg-persistence] Issue of embiggenment for Ticket #25--Persistent Collectives</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Tony,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(Adding Bill and Wesley)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We also talked about this today and we agree, that this should be done sooner than later, but we do need the other changes from Bill’s email taken care of first by the chapter committees. Only this will allow for easy merges - the goal is to get this done by next week (please help push the chapter committees you are working with).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As for the procedure - we technically have handled that as a ticket 0 in past, but this has gotten larger. I would suggest we reserve part of a virtual meeting for that in which you can run through the changes. Based on the amount of reactions we can then decide whether this is truly ticket 0, or we need a vote (which IMHO would be an errata vote).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Does this make sense and help?</div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">—<br class="">Prof. Dr. Martin Schulz, Chair of Computer Architecture and Parallel Systems<br class="">Department of Informatics, TU-Munich, Boltzmannstraße 3, D-85748 Garching<br class="">Member of the Board of Directors at the Leibniz Supercomputing Centre (LRZ)<br class=""><a href="mailto:schulzm@in.tum.de" class="">Email: schulzm@in.tum.de</a></div></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25. Mar 2020, at 15:44, Anthony Skjellum <<a href="mailto:skjellum@gmail.com" class="">skjellum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="x_Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Martin, we are at this time considering<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">when</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>we need to do the embiggenment work on the persistent collective operations. We think it should<div class="">be done now.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How should we proceed?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) We propose to open a new ticket and new PR. Do you agree?</div><div class="">2) Is this strictly a chapter-author update?</div><div class="">3) Is this something to be voted? Errata? full ticket?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please advise us.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you in advance,</div><div class="">Tony (on behalf of the WGs)<br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="">Anthony Skjellum, PhD<br class=""><a href="mailto:skjellum@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">skjellum@gmail.com</a><br class="">Cell: +1-205-807-4968<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">mpiwg-persistence mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:mpiwg-persistence@lists.mpi-forum.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">mpiwg-persistence@lists.mpi-forum.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-persistence" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.mpi-forum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpiwg-persistence</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>