<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>here are some comments Bill Gropp gathered when reading our proposal. </div><div><br></div><div>The most important item here is the need for a F08 interface to be designed, lets keep that in mind. </div><div><br><div>Début du message réexpédié :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>De: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">William Gropp <<a href="mailto:wgropp@illinois.edu">wgropp@illinois.edu</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Objet: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>Rép : MPI FT chapter comments</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">4 mars 2014 11:09:55 UTC−8<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>À: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">Aurélien Bouteiller <<a href="mailto:bouteill@icl.utk.edu">bouteill@icl.utk.edu</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">On the error codes and classes, the problem is that while classes are codes, not all codes are classes, and the routines return codes, not classes. Thus it is incorrect to check that a returned code is equal to a class - that's what the MPI_Error_class routine is for.<div><br></div><div>I've marked up my PDF, but in short:</div><div><br></div><div>p 593, first paragraph. "becomes permanently unresponsive" is unknowable - this is a timeout requirement where permanently means infinity. What is intended here, I think, is processes that exit (they may be forced to exit by a monitor that enforces a timeout, for example). In any event, this text needs to change.</div><div><br></div><div>p 593, bottom of page. "FT applications using the interfaces defined…" is very awkward - I think the intent here is that all of the routines must be available, even if the MPI implementation provides no FT support. </div><div><br></div><div>p 594, section 15.2: "A process is considered involved in a communication …" is overly broad - I think that this should add something like "for the purposes of this chapter".</div><div><br></div><div>p 596, section 15.2.4. "all subsequent operations on the same window" is ambiguous, as the window is a global object. Was the intent "all subsequent operations on the same window by the same process that was notified of a fault"?</div><div><br></div><div>p 597, mid page. What is "the lock"? Note that WIN_LOCK/UNLOCK is not a mutex - it has to do with the beginning and ending of a passive target epoch.</div><div><br></div><div>p 600, near bottom. Typo - there is 'AND' which should probably be either `AND' or \texttt{AND}.</div><div><br></div><div>Throughout, someone needs to do the Fortran08 bindings, particularly with the plan to deprecate the older Fortran bindings.</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: inherit;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: inherit;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="font-size: 12px; ">William Gropp</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">Director, Parallel Computing Institute</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">Deputy Director for Research</div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">Institute for Advanced Computing Applications and Technologies</div></div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: inherit;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="font-size: 12px; ">University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign</div></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Mar 4, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Aurélien Bouteiller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hey Bill, <div><br></div><div>I would be interested to know if you have other or more precise comments from your reading of the FT ticket (RMA related or not). </div><div><br></div><div>Regarding your comment on error classes, I believe the examples are correct because of the following sentence in section 8.4 “The values defined for MPI error classes are valid MPI error codes”. Please let me know if you disagree. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div>Aurelien </div><div><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 14px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 14px; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2;">--</span></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; border-spacing: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>* Dr. Aurélien Bouteiller</div><div>* Researcher at Innovative Computing Laboratory</div><div>* University of Tennessee</div><div>* 1122 Volunteer Boulevard, suite 309b</div><div>* Knoxville, TN 37996</div><div>* 865 974 9375</div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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