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color:#1F497D'>I agree with Dick. We’re getting very strong ISV feedback that
an MPI-3 compatibility break will constitute a serious adoption barrier for
them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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mpi3-ft-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org
[mailto:mpi3-ft-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard
Treumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> MPI 3.0 Fault Tolerance and Dynamic Process Control working Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mpi3-ft] FT Working Group Teleconf (today)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I know there have been suggestions that binary
compatibility could be expendable. I am not aware of any decision that it is
"not a goal"<br>
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I remind you all that this survey did not use a good sampling technique. For
example, I suspect most people who solve problems with a code that happens to
be written in MPI want their code to just keep working and never saw the
survey.<br>
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<br>
Dick Treumann - MPI Team <br>
IBM Systems & Technology Group<br>
Dept X2ZA / MS P963 -- 2455 South Road -- Poughkeepsie, NY 12601<br>
Tele (845) 433-7846 Fax (845) 433-8363<br>
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style='color:#424282'>Greg Bronevetsky ---03/24/2010 11:46:14 AM---At 07:13 AM
3/24/2010, Richard Treumann wrote: >I just took a look at the piggy back
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Greg Bronevetsky <bronevetsky1@llnl.gov></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>"MPI 3.0 Fault Tolerance and Dynamic
Process Control working Group" <mpi3-ft@lists.mpi-forum.org>,
"MPI 3.0 Fault Tolerance and Dynamic Process Control working Group"
<mpi3-ft@lists.mpi-forum.org></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Robert Blackmore/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>03/24/2010 11:46 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Re: [Mpi3-ft] FT Working Group Teleconf
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<tt>I don't believe that binary compatibility is a goal for MPI 3 and in </tt><br>
<tt>the survey users rated it quite low on their priority list.</tt><br>
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<tt>Greg Bronevetsky</tt><br>
<tt>Lawrence Livermore National Lab</tt><br>
<tt>(925) 424-5756</tt><br>
<tt>bronevetsky@llnl.gov</tt><br>
<tt><a href="http://greg.bronevetsky.com">http://greg.bronevetsky.com</a> </tt><br>
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