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<meta charset="utf-8"></head><body><pre style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 100%; white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word">Hello together,
Here a short reminder for our extended Topologies WG meeting and discussion today.
Zoom link for meeting:
<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://bordeaux-inp-fr.zoom.us/j/94239445119?pwd=RUZ3UjBBTDlxTGNmTVZFcUl0SlVJQT09__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_ga2kP3hI$">https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://bordeaux-inp-fr.zoom.us/j/94239445119?pwd=RUZ3UjBBTDlxTGNmTVZFcUl0SlVJQT09__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_ga2kP3hI$</a>
Best
Christoph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christoph Niethammer" <niethammer@hlrs.de>
To: "mpiwg-hw-topology" <mpiwg-hw-topology@lists.mpi-forum.org>, "mpiwg-semantic-terms" <mpiwg-semantic-terms@lists.mpi-forum.org>, "MPI-3 Collective Subgroup Discussions" <mpiwg-coll@lists.mpi-forum.org>
Cc: "Guillaume Mercier" <guillaume.mercier@u-bordeaux.fr>, "Claudia Blaas-Schenner" <claudia.blaas-schenner@tuwien.ac.at>, "Martin Schulz" <martin.w.j.schulz@tum.de>
Sent: Tuesday, 18 March, 2025 09:15:23
Subject: Discussing Semantics and Synchronization Requirements for Neighbourhood Collectives
Hello everyone,
During the preparation for the FRM, a question was raised regarding
whether and how the semantics of collectives apply to neighborhood collectives. [1]
This question stemmed from remark 18) in the summary table in Appendix A.2,
which was used to apply the semantics of collectives to neighbourhood
collectives at this place.
The discussions expanded during the March meeting to the question of whether remark 18,
stating that "all-to-all collectives *must* synchronize (with some restrictions)",
is correct. [2]
I would like to invite you all to discuss these two issues in more detail during a
Topologies WG meeting on March 27th at 15:00, as part of our regular WG slot.
Best regards
Christoph Niethammer
[1] <a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/863__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_ggVb8Wv4$">https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/863__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_ggVb8Wv4$</a>
[2] <a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/971__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_ganrdN1A$">https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/971__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_ganrdN1A$</a>
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Dr.-Ing. Christoph Niethammer
High Performance Computing Center Stuttgart (HLRS)
Nobelstrasse 19
70569 Stuttgart
Tel: ++49(0)711-685-87203
email: christoph.niethammer@hlrs.de
<a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://www.hlrs.de/people/christoph-niethammer__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_g3BynO4w$">https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://www.hlrs.de/people/christoph-niethammer__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!b-kbPf2jCRY1dawPKunW-qWF-pP3lcMxY6ecAtGIi4mxT8DnYOZO-R3_zFjyDc19WFu6CKsXPQ2gNaoUn77NO5_g3BynO4w$</a>
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