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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Next week does not work for me at all.<BR>
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Rich<BR>
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On 6/3/08 12:29 PM, "Supalov, Alexander" <alexander.supalov@intel.com> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">Hi everybody,<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">It looks to me that we're on subsetting crossroads at the moment. There was a lot of good analysis so far, but I'm afraid we're slow on moving towards comparably sized synthesis.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">On one hand, we have a rather well defined and strictly aimed proposal from Dick that might fit into MPI-2.2 framework and is somewhat related to subsetting. We also have a wider proposal from Jeff, which also has interesting repercussions in the client/MPI data exchange area, potentially usable well outside of the subsetting per se.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">On the other hand we have a lot of things coming into the standard in MPI-3, and still no clear way to manage this complexity and cater for special purpose MPI configurations that may be necessary for MPI to expand to new areas. Moreover, the meeting in Chicago showed that not everybody agrees that introducing flexibility or going beyond the traditional HPC is a good idea at all.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">On this backdrop, I'd suggest we should meet on the phone before the Forum gathering in Menlo Park, and try to develop a workable proposition how subsetting can find its way into the standard.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">I happen to have time for such a meeting on the following days next week:<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">Tuesday, May 10, 2008, 8:00 am PDT/11:00 am EDT/17:00 CDT yes/no/plan B<BR>
Wednesday, May 11, 2008, 8:00 am PDT/11:00 am EDT/17:00 CDT yes/no/plan B<BR>
Thursday, May 12, 2008, 8:00 am PDT/11:00 am EDT/17:00 CDT yes/no/plan B<BR>
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Please reply as usual to me whether you can make any of these slots.<BR>
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Best regards.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">Alexander<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT FACE="Arial">PS. This time I took special care to have a subsetting slot at the F2F meeting. :)<BR>
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