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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:mpi3-subsetting-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard
Graham<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 06, 2008 4:57 PM<BR><B>To:</B> MPI 3.0
Sub-setting working group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mpi3-subsetting] Subsetting
slides for F2F meeting: please comment by EOD March 6, 2008<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Thanks
a lot for taking on the task of herding cats.<BR><BR>Here are some
comments:<BR> - Growing complexity does not have to mean worse
performance. It really depends<BR> on where the
complexity resides.<SPAN class=251070316-06032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN
class=251070316-06032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'll restore
"may" here.</FONT> </SPAN><BR> - We have not at all agreed to
formal recognition of optional parts of the standard.<BR> As a
matter of fact, on the call there were more opinions expressed in favor
of<BR> use of a subset in a certain instant, not optional
sections. We may at the end conclude<BR> that for some
features optional is the best way, but have not gone there yet.<SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN
class=251070316-06032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OK, I'll turn
this into suggestion or drop it.</FONT></SPAN><BR> - Optimization
potential: don’t get into too much detail. I am not convinced that
all<BR> that is listed there is actually correct –
implementation can do (and do) a lot
to<BR> eliminate some of the things listed in the
bulleted list.<SPAN class=251070316-06032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN
class=251070316-06032008> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'll
consider this.</FONT></SPAN><BR> - What did you have in mind with
“mutually incompatible families” ?<SPAN class=251070316-06032008><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Several stable combinations of subsets may emerge that will
cover different application areas well, but they (the subsets) will be mutually
incompatible between each other.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>On
3/6/08 10:27 AM, "Supalov, Alexander" <alexander.supalov@intel.com>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV></DIV></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Hi everybody,<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Thanks for your comments. Now the slides are also in the Wiki, see
<A
href="http://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/wiki/SubsettingWikiPage/MPI-3%20subsetting.ppt">http://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/attachment/wiki/SubsettingWikiPage/MPI-3%20subsetting.ppt</A>
.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial>Note that I'm going to incorporate your
feedback and remove the backup in the final version - we'll only have 5
minutes to present the WG results to the Forum.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Best regards.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Alexander<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
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</FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Supalov, Alexander <BR><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'mpi3-subsetting@lists.mpi-forum.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Subsetting slides for
F2F meeting: please comment by EOD March 6, 2008<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Hi everybody,<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Here come the promised draft slides for the subsetting presentation
at the MPI Forum. I put this into our corporate template, I hope everybody is
OK with this.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Your comments will be most appreciated. I would like to finalize
the slides on Friday, so please send your feedback by EOD your time on
Thursday, March 6, 2008.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Sorry for the message size. I cannot upload this file to the Wiki
due to file size limitation there. I work this with Rich in
background.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Best regards.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
face=Arial>Alexander<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">--<BR>Dr Alexander Supalov<BR>Intel
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