<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div>Hi Jim, all,</div><div><br></div><div>This ticket is on the agenda now as a reading (plenary) and we can certainly discuss the larger implications and how/where to handle this in the future.</div><div><br></div><div>However, note that based on the current timeline, this won’t make it into MPI 3.1. At the moment, MPI 3.1 is slated to be completed in March. We can, of course, decide to change that, but if we allow new tickets this meeting for 3.1, this would push the a final version at least to September.</div><div><br></div><div>Martin</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Jim Dinan <<a href="mailto:james.dinan@gmail.com">james.dinan@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> Main mailing list <<a href="mailto:mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org">mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 3:05 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Main mailing list <<a href="mailto:mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org">mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><div dir="ltr">Just wanted to respond to the incomplete comment --
<div><br></div><div>The intention with the info keys ticket was always to bring forward each info key or info key topic as a separate ticket. I know there are a lot of info keys left that are very important, and hopefully we can continue to reach consensus and bring them
forward to be voted on. The wildcards info key proposal really represents the start of that process and should chart the course for future proposals.</div><div><br></div><div> ~Jim.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Richard Graham <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:richardg@mellanox.com" target="_blank">richardg@mellanox.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It has some of the interested parties, not all. I am interested in such items, and thought that the whole topic had fallen off the plate, so was very surprised
to hear there is a concrete proposal, which in my view is incomplete.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Rich<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> mpi-forum [mailto:<a href="mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org" target="_blank">mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Hammond<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 01, 2014 3:29 AM<span class=""><br><b>To:</b> Main MPI Forum mailing list<br></span><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hybrid WG already had all the interested parties and was active. I don't recall p2p WG was particularly active when discussion of 381 started ~2 years ago. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">As always, every member of the forum can participate in any WG and 381/461 were always discussed in the open for anyone to see. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">As it currently stands, p2p WG has more than enough to discuss without this ticket. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Note also that some of the info keys discussed have a greater impact when threads are involved, hence are connected to hybrid. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jeff<br><br>
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On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Richard Graham <<a href="mailto:richardg@mellanox.com" target="_blank">richardg@mellanox.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Why is such a proposal coming out of the hybrid working group ? This is more appropriate for the point-to-point working group. Not that it is that critical
what the group name is, but more to get feedback from a wide range of folks interested is such topics.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Rich</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> mpi-forum [<a href="mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org" target="_blank">mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Dinan<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> Main MPI Forum mailing list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The hybrid working group would like to put forward ticket #461 (<a href="https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/461" target="_blank">https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/461</a>) for consideration for MPI 3.1,
with a formal reading at the upcoming December meeting.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This ticket proposes the no_any_tag and no_any_source info keys, on which we have achieved consensus. We continue to have vigorous and productive debate on additional communicator info keys proposals that have been captured in #381. We
will pursue these additional proposals for MPI 4.0.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks and see you in December,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> ~Jim.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
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