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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I can certainly do this, but this has potentially broad implications to a central part of the MPI standard, so discussion needs to be in a natural and visible
place. This is not the first time this sort of idea has been raised (I remember this being discussed well before the Forum was restarted almost 7 years ago) and it was shot down quickly, so need to make sure we have a broad and well thought out discussion
here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mpi-forum [mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Hammond<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 01, 2014 3:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Main MPI Forum mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I recommend signing up for the hybrid WG email list and adding yourself to the cc box of both tickets. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">December in San Jose is a great time to discuss these tickets and you'll be current on both at that point. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Richard Graham <<a href="mailto:richardg@mellanox.com">richardg@mellanox.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It has some of the interested parties, not all. I am interested in such items, and thought that the whole topic had fallen off the plate, so was very surprised
to hear there is a concrete proposal, which in my view is incomplete.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rich</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mpi-forum [<a href="mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org">mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Hammond<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 01, 2014 3:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Main MPI Forum mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hybrid WG already had all the interested parties and was active. I don't recall p2p WG was particularly active when discussion of 381 started ~2 years ago. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As always, every member of the forum can participate in any WG and 381/461 were always discussed in the open for anyone to see. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As it currently stands, p2p WG has more than enough to discuss without this ticket. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Note also that some of the info keys discussed have a greater impact when threads are involved, hence are connected to hybrid. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Richard Graham <<a href="mailto:richardg@mellanox.com">richardg@mellanox.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Why is such a proposal coming out of the hybrid working group ? This is more appropriate for the point-to-point working group. Not that it is that critical
what the group name is, but more to get feedback from a wide range of folks interested is such topics.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rich</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> mpi-forum [<a href="mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org">mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Dinan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Main MPI Forum mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Mpi-forum] Info Keys Ticket</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The hybrid working group would like to put forward ticket #461 (<a href="https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/461">https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/461</a>) for consideration for MPI 3.1, with a formal
reading at the upcoming December meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This ticket proposes the no_any_tag and no_any_source info keys, on which we have achieved consensus. We continue to have vigorous and productive debate on additional communicator info keys proposals that have been captured in #381. We
will pursue these additional proposals for MPI 4.0.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks and see you in December,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> ~Jim.<o:p></o:p></p>
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