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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi all, I’m not really sure how to respond to this email. I
will just note that this proposal has passed 1<sup>st</sup> vote last September
with the following results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:
8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Vote topic: </span><b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>MPI-2.2
const for C bindings, 1st vote:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>YES:</span></b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>ABSTAIN:</span></b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Result:</span></b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#00BB00'>Ballot
passed</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/secretary/2008/09/votes.php">http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/secretary/2008/09/votes.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>since then we decided to postpone the 1<sup>st</sup> vote to add
very few minor correction to ticket #46 (the original proposal) and thus
created ticket #140.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I believe that all the points you mention below have been
discussed in the forum meeting(s).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>.Erez<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org
[mailto:mpi-forum-bounces@lists.mpi-forum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard
Treumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Main MPI Forum mailing list<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mpi-22@lists.mpi-forum.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Mpi-forum] The const proposal - Ticket 140<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>All -</span></tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
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<tt>The signatories of this letter represent the majority of MPI implementors
participating in the MPI Forum. We are concerned that proposal #140 ("Add
const Keyword to the C bindings") has a number of issues which suggest
delaying to MPI-3 would be appropriate. </tt></span><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>In particular, the proposal:</span></tt><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
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<tt>- Is likely to pass a simple majority vote, but does not carry the support
of the majority of MPI implementors, suggesting consensus has not been reached.</tt><br>
<tt>- Changes 90+ MPI API interfaces, which is not a "trivial" change
and therefore does not meet the intent of the MPI-2.2 process.</tt><br>
<tt>- Is not needed to fix any serious bug in the standard text or to solve an
issue that cannot easily be avoided by the MPI application.</tt><br>
<tt>- Does not offer any demonstrable optimization opportunities for
implementation or application, but may constrain future implementation
opportunities.</tt><br>
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<tt>Therefore, we ask for your assistance in deferring proposal #140 to the
MPI-3 process, where more time can be spent assessing its impact.</tt></span><br>
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thank you,</span></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- Cisco: Jeff Squires</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- Intel: Alexander Supalov & Keith Underwood</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- Sandia: Brian Barrett</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- IBM: Richard Treumann</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- QLogic: Avneesh Pant</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- UTenn: George Bosilca</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- HP: David George Solt</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- UHouston: Edgar Gabriel</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- Myricom: Patrick Geoffray</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- ORNL: Richard Graham</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- Sun: Terry Dontje</span></tt><br>
<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>- NEC: Hubert Ritzdorf & Jesper Traeff</span></tt><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<br>
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Dick Treumann - MPI Team <br>
IBM Systems & Technology Group<br>
Dept X2ZA / MS P963 -- 2455 South Road -- Poughkeepsie, NY 12601<br>
Tele (845) 433-7846 Fax (845) 433-8363<o:p></o:p></p>
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